Posted on 01/02/2018 8:20:32 AM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt
The flu is now considered “widespread” across Minnesota (and elsewhere).
In other words, the flu virus has been reported at hospitals all over the state.
Many hospitals are placing restrictions on visitors to stop the spread.
The numbers are why the Minnesota Department of Health has declared influenza and respiratory illness widespread,
which means hospitals will be placing restrictions on visitors to protect patients and staff. (Emphasis mine)
(Excerpt) Read more at minnesota.cbslocal.com ...
The State should call for the death penalty for all anti-vaxers.
The morally pure vaccinated have SUPER PROTECTION from disease. They should be happy.
... instead I bet the vaxers are let down because they got infected anyway. Sigh.
I know little about it and didn’t ask him specifics but I have heard numerous people say it is very beneficial. I’m going to research it.
I dunno, I'm not a doc, and I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
Headline is incorrect. Hospitals are not restricting patients, they are restricting visitors.
Dry unproductive cough, bad chills, bad sore throat, and all the rest.
I had those same symptoms pre Christmas. People's standard response is see the Doctor, take pills, get a shot, get a vaccine.
But nobody suggested what worked. In this so called 'modern society', nobody, and I mean NOBODY suggested the correct answer. No one recommended success.
I ran. Running succeeded. Only 2 days of an hour or two running.
The body is sick, chills and the rest. Wait for a good up moment. Then run. Freezing weather. Dress warm.
Directly fight what attacks you. It worked. Residual lessened symptoms will remain a week or two.
But the disease is gone quickly. You need no medicine. Time spent in the Doctor's office is lost time running to cure you. Doctors are for serious illness, not flus.
I am just letting you know, in real time, how the other, non authoritarian side, approaches adversity successfully.
40-60% is the CDC take. Their published results seem to say different.
Per CDC, previous 3 seasons sucked.
Only 4 seasons with >50% effective since 2004. Results are adjusted.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pdf/professionals/vaccination/vaccine-effectiveness-table-2017.pdf
go here to see specifics to check out effectiveness for a specific strain of flu
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2017-06/flu-03-ferdinands.pdf
Today is the first day since 12/14 that I am not feeling sick or blowing exorcist stuff out of my nose.
Patrick Henry would have been an “anti-vaxxer”.
2 weeks is the norm.
My wife, an RN and the doctor, she worked with for 35 years, felt that older and immune compromised patients needed about 4 weeks.
Aside from there being several different strains of influenza, the virus which is an RNA virus) has a rather high rate of mutation. In the same way the common cold virus mutates and you can get sick from a cold (rhinovirus also a RNA virus) more than once during your lifetime.
It is thought that a flu shot can give you immunity or partial immunity for more than one year, perhaps two, but since it is a crap shoot each year which influenza strain(s) will be the most prevalent, it is recommended to get one each year.
I hope your Dr. didn’t give you an antibiotic unless you had a bacterial infection of some sort. Antibiotics are not only useless against a viral infection, the over proscribing of them is one of the reasons believed responsible for the decrease in effectiveness of antibiotics. As is people who do not take them as proscribed like taking on half of them, and when feeling better, stopping.
Since you’ve mentioned being sick going on 5 weeks, it sounds likely you have a bacterial infection of some sort, perhaps bronchitis, perhaps a secondary infection as a result of having a virus.
BTW, he ordered me NOT to take OTC cough medicines. Use musinex, 800 ML advil a day and a anti histamine.
Yes for an unproductive cough you definitely want to stay away from cough suppressants. My Dr. also recommended that I use Mucinex.
If you are of average size for your gender and you aren’t either 1)sunning almost naked daily for 30 mins or 2) taking 5000 iu of vitamin d3, you should be. Start today. If you are fighting chronic conditions take 10k iu.
You still might be exposed to the flu but with enough d3 in your body, you will not get sick or get a much less severe case.
death penalty..really? Does that include those of us who are ALLERGIC to the flu vaccine or what a$$hat.
“I ran. Running succeeded.”
Placebo
And ignorance.
It’s good stuff. Been using it for many years .
I always amazed at the wealth of real knowledge on FR.
Ultimately, it doesn't matter, now I get the shot. Had the flu a few years ago and thought that I was going to die from it. Would be foolish not to take basic preventative measures.
Seeing the doctor with the simple flu is not the best way to go, I agree. But lemme tell you something, when you have asthma as well as heart problems, you dont wait till the grim reaper appears to get care.
That doctor saw the problem and it was time to act.
And I dont take advice from people that think they know better. I take my advice from myself as well as the professionals.
BTW, I am a logger/timber producer.
He did that because of my medical history. Cronic Asthma and heart problems-stent. My BP was very high at the time.
He agreed that antibiodics are not to be administered for viruses, but also said that because they have not been hitting illness with strong antibiodics and using oral instead of stronger, has resulted in the problems we are having today with such.
I agree with him.
Before I started getting the flu shot, mostly because it has been now administered free at my last two workplaces, I came down with the flu in 2000 or 2001.
I got up that Monday morning for work. I wasn’t feeling sick per se when I got up but was feeling extremely tired and very “out of sorts”, like I hadn’t slept for days even though I had gone to bed rather early the night before and had slept through the night.
I got to work and someone, a co-worker I think, mentioned that I looked sort of pale and asked me if I was OK. I was feeling sort of chilled, and I put on a cardigan and turned on the portable heater at my desk up on high but still didn’t, couldn’t feel or get warm enough. I also felt very weak, fatigued in a fog and several cups of coffee weren’t helping.
Then I started sneezing, and sneezing uncontrollably. Sneeze after sneeze after sneeze.
The all of a sudden I became nauseous and I ran to the bathroom and threw up several times. My boss told me “Go the Hell Home!” and I did.
By the time I got home, the sore throat started, and by sore, I mean flaming raw, it felt like I had gargled razor blades. I threw up a few more times and even had some diarrhea and then crawled into bed, actually on the living room couch because it was closer to a bathroom and the only land line phone in the house and our only TV (and I didn’t want to keep my husband up all night or pass it to him if I could help it).
Then came the body aches, actually everything ached. My joints hurt and ached as if someone had beaten me, hit every joint in my body with a baseball bat or ballpeen hammer and even my skin and my hair hurt. I know it’s strange to think that one’s hair can hurt but that’s what it felt like.
By the time my husband came home from work I was a hot mess – literally because he took my temperature and it was 103.
Then came the coughing and the chest congestion. I was coughing so hard for the next couple of days that I had to change my PJ bottoms many times because I was peeing myself from coughing so hard and my ribs hurt.
I laid on my couch for the next 5 days, thinking I might die, sometimes hoping I would, I was just that sick. I had very little appetite but tried to eat some a bit of chicken soup now and then but was drinking plenty of fluids, ginger ale and herbal tea. My husband at one point tried to get me to go to the ER but I figured there was probably nothing they could do for me other than what I was doing already, taking Tylenol for the fever, staying hydrated, getting rest, but said I would go if my fever wouldn’t break or I had trouble breathing.
I missed a week of work but talked to my boss every day and he told me just about a third or more of the company’s employees and nearly half of our finance department were now out sick with it too.
At the end of the week, that Sunday was feeling a bit better and my husband convinced me to take a shower and get dressed and go grocery shopping with him.
It was good to get showered and dressed, get out of the house and get some fresh air but I ended up using the shopping cart sort of like a walker, I was still that weak, so much so that it was hard to walk through the grocery store without having the grocery cart to lean on for support.
I went back to work the following Monday but it took another week or two before I was feeling anywhere near normal again.
About three years ago my company ran short of flu shots so I let my part-time payroll assistant who didn’t have insurance, take my spot thinking I’d just go to a CVS to get mine since it was covered 100% by my insurance but never got around to it. And sure enough I came down with the flu that Christmas Eve. It wasn’t the worst case I’ve ever had, not nearly as bad as the one I got previously but still laid me low for several days. My nephew also came down with, got sick the day after our family Christmas Eve party when I started coming down with it.
My nephew is much younger that I, very fit and healthy, a bit of a clean freak, but he ended up in the hospital with pneumonia.
If you were feeling well enough to go running, you likely didn't have influenza, you probably had a head cold.
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