Posted on 01/05/2018 12:10:31 PM PST by mikelets456
I'm getting into this debate more and more with people and getting nowhere. They're saying the parties somehow "flipped" and say the Republicans were previously the racist democrat party of KKK, Slavery and Jim Crow. I contest that the Republican principals were the same under Lincoln as they are today. Also, voters from the South let go of their ties to the racist Democrats and starting voting for Republicans. I'm looking for facts starting from Teddy Roosevelt, to WW, Coolidge, FDR and through the late 1960's...A lot of you on here are historians and I value your input. I believe this will be coming up more and more and we need to be prepared with the truth.
Go to Woodrow Wilson. He’s unmistakably a modern non-southern liberal, and unmistakenly a big league racist.
I was shocked when I first encountered the “big flip” theory. I guess I still am. The nerve of those people - they’ll never accept responsibility for anything. Anyway, I copied information a Freeper posted countering the big flip into my profile so click on my name and start reading at the top. There may be unrelated text at the bottom...I don’t recall. But really, those people have no conscience. They are depraved yet always “automatically” claim the high ground.
“I’ll have those Nig**rs voting Democrat for the next 200 years!”-Lyndon Johnson.
Because no one caught it on tape the libs are trying to say he did not say it.
Hmmmm.....I should have checked before I suggested you check my profile. Sorry little there followed by anti Obama stuff. Darn - I think I let the good stuff get away. It was a great post by a freeper. If I can remember their name, I will post their info.
Robert Byrd was Democrat and formerly KKK. Did he forget to flip?
Ask them about when they used to be Repubicans and watch the blank stares.
Few Democrats switched sides after the bill passed, but they did so knowing they were joining a caucus that supported civil rights.
Here is the dirty little secret Democrats use the race card to try to cover up. The Democrats split over Vietnam, not civil rights. After Kennedy and Johnson started the war, they lost the 1968 election to Nixon, who said he would end the war. Between 1968 and 1972, the party split, with the Kennedy/McGovern liberal wing seizing power. They even tried blaming Nixon for the war, which their media buddies pushed. The sun was setting on Scoop Jackson Democrats. Southern Democrats, who had always been strong on national defense and were mostly anti-isolationist, began migrating to the Republican party. Besides, many Southern Democrats were conservative and were lukewarm about the New Deal at best. But the Dems don't want to admit how they really lost the Roosevelt coalition by pushing the conservatives out of their party.
Dinesh D’Souza says 1% flipped in his movie “Hillary’s America: The Secret History of the Democratic Party.”
Here is the movie where D’Souza makes the 1% flipped claim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTnfknMDKn0
I don’t recall the source....
I am a conservative. I am a Republican.
Among other things, this means that—based on no evidence whatsoever—I have been called a racist exactly one million times.
* I have been called a racist as a collective slur of all Republicans, by hundreds of thousands of lefties from the media to academia to Hollywood, for the last half-century.
* I have been called a racist by Barack Obama.
* I have been called a racist in comment threads.
* I was recently called a racist in an email pursuant to this article—an article which had exactly jack.squat to do with race.
* I have been called a racist to my face. Never by a black person, but by more than one white liberal.
Well, I finally snapped back. You know I’ve snapped when I write in second person.
Do I feel bad about that? Not at all.
They’ve been making it personal—silencing all debate with a single word—for decades. To blazes with the rascals.
Print this out, and the next time it happens to you, either directly or indirectly, you tell ‘em this:
Oh stop it. Not one more word.
Stop trying to project your own racism upon us.
YOU, in fact, are the real racists.
Historically, your Party’s racism and atrocities are undeniable. Yours was the Party of Slavery, segregation, Jim Crow, and opposition to every piece of civil rights legislation the GOP tried to pass. The KKK is the terrorist wing of the Democratic Party . . . .YOUR Party.
But even today, your racism continues. Oh sure, you smile and say how much you support blacks and how many wonderful, “articulate” blacks you admire, but beneath that lie is a contempt you show with your every action.
It is YOUR boot on the throat of every person whom you’ve made into a government dependent.
The black family, once the equal in cohesion to the white family, is now rent asunder. Welfare rules you created and touted as humane for 40 years have driven black men and black women apart. Most black children now grow up without a dad in the home. The blood of the black family is on YOUR hands.
It is YOUR abortion mills that are bringing about a slow genocide of blacks in America.
Those are YOUR abortion mills, which are carrying on the work of YOUR hero, Margaret Sanger . . . the feminist, eugenicist, and nazi darling . . . you know, the one who wanted to make sure the word didn’t get out about her plan to “exterminate the negro.”
It is YOUR people who say that the drop in crime in the 90s was brought about by the abortion of what YOU called would-be criminal black babies.
It is you who think so little of black people that you constantly tell them, in word and in deed, that they are not able to compete on a level playing field. It is you who seek to drive this message home every chance you get. It is you who uses this lie to keep them on a plantation of government dependence and electoral vassalage.
All we want blacks to do is build familes, get rich, and participate in the building of a civil society . . . .just like what we want for everyone else. And you call US the racists?
Oh, and let’s go back in time, shall we?
The Republican Party fought—and its people died—to end Slavery.
Then, we fought and died to end segregation, and to bring voting and other civil rights to all the freed slaves.
Died? Yes, died. We died because YOU created the KKK to kill Republicans and blacks, and to take away the gains we were trying to make.
And you did a damn good job of it, too. You drove us out of the South.
We fought for civil rights for 100 years. You opposed our every effort.
You opposed our attempts to end segregation. You filibustered our civil rights bills. You even fought against us when we proposed anti-lynching legislation.
Your officials turned firehoses on people marching for freedom. Your governors stood in the doorways of schools to prevent little black girls and boys from entering.
It was a REPUBLICAN president who had to send the National Guard — the National Guard! — just so that these children could go to school.
Civil Rights did not become possible because you started supporting it. Civil rights became possible because you stopped standing in the way of it.
More of our politicians supported Civil Rights legislation than yours did. Yours filibustered it! It finally made it through because of the tireless efforts of the Republican minority leader.
Oh what, now you want to tell me that it was only the SOUTHERN Democrats who were the racists? Okay fine. Half of your party were slaveholding, segregationist, KKK-creating, Jim Crow upholding opposers of civil rights.
Gee, only half? You must be very proud.
Guess what, NONE of my party ever was. We didn’t stop fighting for civil rights until civil rights legislation was finally passed.
You wanna tell me that only half your party was bad? Fine. That half of your party controlled your attitude towards race from the foundations of this nation all the way up until the 1960s. That half of your party WAS the problem. Without them, we would have done away with segregation and poll taxes and lynchings 140 years ago.
Oh, and let’s look at the South. When Democrats controlled the South, it was a bastion of segregation. Now, Republicans control the South . . . and look! We didn’t bring back segregation and literacy tests for voting. It may not be perfect yet, but it’s not the segregated place you made it anymore.
You have the nerve to call me a racist? To call us racists? Why? Because I am a Republican? You have a lot of nerve. Or is it because I have white skin?
You’d better not be saying that, because that’s called blood guilt. That says that I’m guilty by nothing more than my biology. That idea was very popular in Germany in the 1930s, but I have to say, we don’t much appreciate it now.
Oh, and funny thing, that idea was also popular among YOUR ideological forebears for almost two centuries. Interesting that you’re pushing a similar notion here in 2011.
My ideological forebears fought and died to put an end to the injustices YOUR ideological forebears wrought. I am proud to follow in their tradition. I have NOTHING to be ashamed of.
For what your ideological forebears did . . . and for what you’re doing today . . . you might want to think about feeling a bit of shame yourself.
You are still capable of feeling shame, aren’t you?
Its a big lie. Ann Coulter destroys the progressive/liberal myth of the party switch in her book Slander: Liberal Lies about the American Right. The truth is those racist democrats stayed democrats till the day they died, it was their kids and grandkids in the late 70’s and into the 80’s that became Republicans. The democrat party owns every bit of the racism and KKK and Jim Crow nasty history and nobody should ever let them forget it.
As stated above, D’Souza’s the man on this topic, but the key fact that I’ve heard him talk about is that blacks started to switch on masse from Republican to Democrat in the 1930’s, based on the New Deal. Then white Southerners starting voting for Republicans as they became measurably less racist as a group. So in both cases, the motivating factor seems to be other than racism.
Senator Byrd who was Hillary’s mentor or sum such thing.
Just reading through the responses before I add my two cents, and I have to say yours is so far the best, but you don’t go far enough back in history.
Waving the bloody shirt.
Plessy v Ferguson for starters....
Blocking the door of the schoolroom for enders....
Then look at the opposition votes by percentage of Republicans vs Democrats on any issue of equal rights.
The Republicans voted overwhelmingly as a percentage and sheer numbers for the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments and the Equal Rights Amendment.
Further, they weren’t so hot on women’s issues either.
The right of a woman to vote(idiotic that it ever needed debate) was sponsored initially by a Republican, voted down by the Dems and other Republicans carried the initiative for 30 years until you get to the 19th amendment, which was sponsored primarily by Republicans and ultimately signed by Woodrow Wilson.
The percentage of numbers in opposition by the Democrats are around 30-40% and if you ever look at the actual number of for and in opposition, they look like they bastards there were...
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