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1 posted on 01/09/2018 6:43:48 AM PST by Elderberry
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Natural born citizen means born here of citizen parents.
Native born would include children of foreign nationals and that is precisely who the founders were seeking to exclude.
They wanted to prevent any foreign influence on the Presidency by restricting the office to only those who are naturally Americans as they could not be anything else.


2 posted on 01/09/2018 6:48:53 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents-Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Elderberry

That goodfriend guy is repulsive.


6 posted on 01/09/2018 6:54:06 AM PST by clintonh8r (I've been banned from TheHill.com. #Proud)
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What was always missed in this mess of Obama’s birth place was that Obama himself claimed he was a foreign national all through his college career. It opened a lot of doors for him and likely also gave him access to grants and funding for his expensive college that somebody paid for. Even his first book identified him as a foreign national (if I remember correctly). But that was called “a mistake by the publisher” during the campaign.

So questioning it was always fair. But the premise should have been from the source. “Did you lie about where you were born and take advantage of benefits in college or are you lying now?”


7 posted on 01/09/2018 6:54:07 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (You couldn't pay me enough to be famous for being rich or stupid!)
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To: Elderberry

Wish the long form was required to be presented before we, the taxpayers fund a “library” for this fraud.


8 posted on 01/09/2018 6:56:10 AM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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Because we have a dishonest and propagandistic mainstream media, this argument will get nowhere in the court of public opinion.

Today, the court of public opinion is what it takes to move the legal system, not the rule of law and justice.


9 posted on 01/09/2018 6:57:20 AM PST by The_Media_never_lie
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I find it amazing that people who bring up this topic, seem to always fail to mention, that the long form birth certificate, released by the White House, has actually been examined by a court certified document examiner.

Here is what the court certified document examiner had to say on the subject. Analysis of Obama long form birth certificate
17 posted on 01/09/2018 7:06:29 AM PST by MMaschin (The difference between strategy and tactics!)
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He was outright not a “natural born citizen” because his father was not a US citizen and his 17-year old mother could only confer US citizenship on US soil. He was born in Kenya. That’s why they had to fake the Hawaii birth certificate, which allowed births to be registered after-the-fact in those days.


19 posted on 01/09/2018 7:12:40 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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Bookmark


26 posted on 01/09/2018 7:25:30 AM PST by COUNTrecount (If only Harvey Weinstein's bathrobe could talk.)
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Did You Ever See a Long-Form?”
ALL of his records are sealed for a reason.


33 posted on 01/09/2018 7:55:17 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacted the most.)
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Obama's long form birth certificate he posted on the WH website back in 2009 (?) was fraudulent and a bad forgery.

I have personally downloaded the file from the WH website and tore it apart in Adobe Illustrator.

I found 11 separate layers had been manufactured and manipulated into a composite that was purported to be the definitive answer to the questions about Obama's birth place.

Whoever put it together was an amateur. They failed to "flatten" the layers into one image when they converted their work to a PDF and posted on the WH website. That resulted in every graphics person in the world being able to figure out very quickly that is was a forgery.

If the person would have flatten the layers, the file would have been much more difficult to tear apart. As it was, this person left the door wide open for others to see that it was a made-up document, not a photocopy of the one page legal LFBC document on file in the courthouse in Hawaii that the WH claimed it was.

Any other person who presented a forgery as bad as this one was to the public as an official state of Hawaii public record, would have been arrested and sent to jail for forgery and fraud. But not one peep from Obama's DOJ about it.

So Trump and Joe Arpaio were not wrong about the LFBC being a forgery. It's just that no one in authority did their jobs and investigated this obvious farce.

Obama may or may not have been born in the US, but his attempt to document the birth resulted in even more questions that need asking, like who forged the LFBC and who directed the forgery?

And why did they have to forge it if Obama was, in fact, born in Hawaii? My guess is, they had to because he wasn't born here.

37 posted on 01/09/2018 8:02:28 AM PST by HotHunt
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Goodfriend was a total and complete tool on this show. He insulted Bongino a number of times, unnecessarily.


39 posted on 01/09/2018 8:07:42 AM PST by cld51860 (Volo pro veritas)
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To: Elderberry

Is Oprah a NBC?


42 posted on 01/09/2018 8:24:20 AM PST by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best)
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To: Elderberry; bitt; LucyT; null and void; Cold Case Posse Supporter; Flotsam_Jetsome; ...

Ping to Judge Jeanine bringing up the fake long-form on her show!

Thanks Elderberry!

On Saturday evening’s edition of FNC’s “Justice with Judge Jeanine,” former Westchester County, NY District Attorney and judge Jeanine Pirro asked one of her guests whether or not he had “ever seen a ‘long-form,’” undoubtedly referring to the “long-form birth certificate” of former White House occupant Barack Hussein Obama.


59 posted on 01/09/2018 12:49:31 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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