Spot on regarding Tet, but the Big Lie started before that, possibly here:
Or Here:
I'm sure Freeper's with better memories than I can take it back even further.
Posted on 01/30/2018 7:30:33 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Josef Goebbels called it the Big Lie, the deliberate misrepresentation of facts and reality in order to achieve a political objective. It’s been part and parcel of the New World Disorder we’ve lived under for the past century, ever since Vladimir Lenin first used a Big Lie to disguise his seizure of power from Russia’s post-czar provisional government in November 1917, by telling the Russian people he was preventing a coup not perpetrating one.
America’s first major encounter with the Big Lie, with all its disastrous consequences, started 50 years ago today, when the American mainstream media — CBS and the other networks, plus the New York Times and the Washington Post — decided to turn the major Communist Tet offensive against U.S. forces and South Vietnam on January 30, 1968, into an American defeat, rather than what it actually was: a major American victory.
We’ve all lived in the disorder and chaos that campaign set in motion ever since.
By the end of 1967, the Communist cause in the Vietnam War was in deep trouble. The build-up of American forces — nearly half a million men were deployed in Vietnam by December — had put the Vietcong on the defensive and led to bloody repulses of the North Vietnamese army (NVA), which had started intervening on the battlefield to ease the pressure on its Vietcong allies.
Hanoi’s decision to launch the Tet offensive was born of desperation. It was an effort to seize the northern provinces of South Vietnam with conventional troops while triggering an urban uprising by the Vietcong that would distract the Americans — and, some still hoped, revive the fading hopes of the Communists. The offensive itself began on January 30, with attacks on American targets in Saigon and other Vietnamese cities,
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Democrat collusion with the Communists is why this “Trump collusion” effort is so utterly ridiculous. It’s been a long, long time since Democrats were anti-communist.
Spot on regarding Tet, but the Big Lie started before that, possibly here:
Or Here:
I'm sure Freeper's with better memories than I can take it back even further.
Yeo, I recall how Walter Cronkite reported from Vietnam, that the war was a lost cause. He swayed public opinion in the matter.
Kind of odd, since wasn’t it a Democrat war at the time and conducted by corrupt Democrats who wanted themselves and their friends to profit from it without having to immediately win it and liberate the South Vietnamese?
This disinformation campaign was spearheaded by the Most Trusted Man In The News, Walter Cronkite.
And Democrats were in collusion with Russia wnen it was communist.
Having seen the author in a 2011 CSPAN talk reaired this weekend, I just ordered this book on Tet:
(search for it on Bookfinder.com, it’s about half this price)
The author covers both wars: the media vs. U.S. and commies vs U.S. (yes I recognize the overlap).
I was impressed with the author’s view that aligns well with this article and am looking forward to reading the book.
Actually a thread earlier this month showed Cranky Cronkite called A success until a couple days later when he was stateside and called it a failure
20 years ago I read a book that Gen Giap wrote on the war from his viewpoint. He admits he believed the North had lost the war after Tet. The Viet Cong was destroyed and remaining VC elements were absorbed into the NVA. The NVA by Giap’s own estimate was only 30% combat effective after Tet. He was completely shocked by the reaction of the US media.
Exactly!
Walter Cronkite was a commie all along. I recall watching an interview he did with Jerry Rivers on his sailboat years ago where he straight up admitted he was a long time commie.
That’s no surprise. The only question is, what other big lies did he tell?
Was he reporting during FDR’s regime?
My mother, who passed away in 2012, was as conservative as conservative gets. I don’t think she ever voted for a democrat in her life. She had no kinds words for any liberal or liberal idea. But God, did she love “Uncle Walter.”
That’s how they move an otherwise decent nation of people to the left. They take the entertaining and compelling TV shows that you love and slowly add in the gay characters, always in sympathetic or noble roles. They take the great community school you went to as a child and slowly slip in the “education degree” graduates, and the “new” curriculumns. They take the media sources you know and trust and and slowly feed you lies.
Exactly right.
New York Times’ Walter Duranty’s cover up of Stalin’s mass murder of Ukranians.
America made three huge mistakes in Vietnam:
1. It never should have supported the French to reinstitute its colonial rule over a country that had fought to liberate itself from the Japanese, which occurred because the British/Australian military teamed with French forces to retake control of the country. The French colonial rulers were all in with Vichy and collaborated with the Japanese to oppress the Vietnamese people.
2. Ho Chi Minh was a nascent communist but was primarily a Vietnamese nationalist who didn’t want French or Chinese control over Vietnam. The Americans had an opportunity to deal with Vietnam as a counterbalance to what became Communist China, likely because of their misguided belief that Chiang Kai Shek at the Chinese nationalists would defeat the Maoists.
3. Having decided to defend South Vietnam following the collapse of the French military, the US needed to go all-in. The incrementalist approach pursued by President Johnson and his advisers was completely wrong-headed. They needed to cut off the head of the snake by invading North Vietnam and destroying the NVA.
Ho Chi Minh was a Comintern agent from the beginning of the establishment of the Soviet Union. He was also a founding member of the French Communist Party while he lived in France. He always was a Soviet Agent.
The VC entered Saigon thinking the locals would rise up and join them to gain control of the city. What the VC encountered were women pouring the hot oil from cooking breakfast on the VC as they walked down narrow streets and alleyways.
The NVA was defeated during Tet, but they were decimated on the HCM Trial returning to the north. The Trail always had spotter teams for air strikes, when the military saw NVA retreat in progress, they dropped and boated in even more teams.
Reading some comments at the source site...
One counter-point was that part of the shock felt by the American public over the Tet Offensive was, whether we defeated it or not, that the enemy could have even launched such an offensive.
To that point, the poster claims, the military and administration had been saying we had the enemy on the ropes.
Any truth to this?
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