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Why More Men Than Ever View Marriage as a Bad Deal
PJ Media ^ | 03/09/2018 | John Hawkins

Posted on 03/10/2018 7:18:24 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: BobL

Forgot to mention.. her younger sister (and her best friend, who is still a good friend of mine) stopped talking to her because of that situation ;^D


301 posted on 03/12/2018 7:22:51 PM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Bikkuri

Well, she basically threw her life up to that point away for a shot at a higher income strata by way of screwing her boss. Did he “put a ring on it?” If so, he’s stupid. Reward something, get more of it, penalize it, get less.


302 posted on 03/13/2018 1:15:40 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

Yup.. 6 months after our divorce, he fell into the ‘contract’ with her.
:/

I don’t fault him at all, he never knew she was married until I met him face to face; I found out later that she took off the ring before she got to work every day.


303 posted on 03/13/2018 1:18:39 AM PDT by Bikkuri
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To: Bikkuri

Has she found a new and bigger wallet yet? Only a matter of time, she’s been trained.


304 posted on 03/13/2018 1:22:13 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Ambrosia; All
LOL....the one who is exposed is you!

BWAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!

And THAT my fellow FReepers was what I refer to as "online cosmetics!"

Too bad only one who thinks it covers up their embarrassing flaws is the user.

305 posted on 03/13/2018 1:34:14 AM PDT by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: papertyger; Georgia Girl 2; NorthstarMom; grania

Papertyger seems to enjoy bashing women, and as I have read his comments for last month, it is unbelievable how he enjoys demeaning the opposite sex. Like his comment on 3/11/2018 at #248 of 305 on this thread:
papertyger says:
“the only difference between a liberal woman and a conservative woman is their politics” SAY WHAT?

That implies conservative women are hos, perverse, haters, and fake. I see that attitude a lot here. I did NOT read one positive word about women. If this were Twitter, I would BLOCK him. AS I read the comments to females on the thread...I decided to act as if he does NOT exist, after this post.

Whatever caused him to be a misogynist or narcissist isn’t fixable. So as he rants, and calls women names, just know he has an emotional issue, and should be ignored. No way to reason with such a woman-hater!

Goodbye papertyger...rant on!


306 posted on 03/13/2018 4:20:26 AM PDT by Ambrosia (Southern born... NC, and have lived in PA, NY,WV,SC, NM, FL, NC....Love USA!)
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To: papertyger
Funny you should mention that. One of the big shockers I got out of Warren Farrell’s “The Myth of Male Power” was that until the writing of his book there were ZERO recorded incidences in this country of a woman killing her “abusive” husband without an insurance policy, illicit lover, or other financial support alternative.

Makes sense to me. In a situation where there is no insurance or assets, where there is no value in the "abusive" husband being dead, a woman who doesn't like the relationship could just walk away.

307 posted on 03/13/2018 5:11:34 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: Ambrosia; papertyger; Georgia Girl 2; NorthstarMom; grania
It's not a generalized hatred of women, but rather a recognition that the legal aspects of marriage have evolved to a state where the marriage contract is increasingly one-sided, to the point of becoming what lawyers call an "unconscionable contract".

Will all, or even most, women take advantage of the current terms? No. But many will. Enough that marriage will increasingly resemble Russian Roulette, especially since so many men find themselves unable to tell, ahead of time, whether their prospective bride will wind up that way.

As a result, more and more men have decided that marriage is a bad deal for them (hence the title of the thread), and more are turning to other options.

As a result, the long-term prognosis for our society is bleak, unless marriage gets fixed to be more attractive to men.

308 posted on 03/13/2018 7:00:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

What “other” options are we talking about? Blowup dolls? Actually the more I think about it the more appropriate it sounds for some of these poor schlubs. :-)


309 posted on 03/13/2018 8:15:27 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Ambrosia
If this were Twitter, I would BLOCK him. AS I read the comments to females on the thread...I decided to act as if he does NOT exist, after this post.

Snowflake response. Just sayin'....

310 posted on 03/13/2018 8:19:00 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Ambrosia

You know what group are the most interested in marriage? Widowed and divorced men with full custody of 2-4 children.

The ones that just have to cough up a child support payment and babysit 2 weekends a month are on this thread sharing pathetic butthurt with each other. LOL!


311 posted on 03/13/2018 8:32:04 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
What “other” options are we talking about? Blowup dolls?

Not getting married. Finding a woman (or series of women) willing to be an unmarried girlfriend, and NOT intermingling finances.

As far as housing, either maintaining separate residences, or the guy moving into the woman's house. While together, he may contribute his share of the living expenses, but if the relationship ends, then he moves out. She keeps the house, but his financial support immediately ceases and she pays her own bills at that point.

312 posted on 03/13/2018 8:45:05 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

That’s called staying a bachelor. Its not new. :-)


313 posted on 03/13/2018 8:49:57 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: PapaBear3625

I know someone who had a 97 page prenup. LOL Funny to read. It even spelled out who paid to get the drive-way plowed. They apparently didn’t trust one another enough to have a small joint checking account to cover such expenses. He pre-deceased her but until the day he died he never told her who he was leaving his estate to.

You guys! LOL


314 posted on 03/13/2018 8:51:21 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Georgia Girl 2

LOL....how funny!


315 posted on 03/13/2018 8:53:41 AM PDT by Ambrosia (Southern born... NC, and have lived in PA, NY,WV,SC, NM, FL, NC....Love USA!)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
You know what group are the most interested in marriage? Widowed and divorced men with full custody of 2-4 children.

And with both parties being old enough that there is no likelihood that the new marriage will result in additional kids (and thus child support obligations). If the new marriage ends, he still maintains full custody of his biological kids. It's an acceptable deal.

I could see this being a necessary condition for men regaining interest in marriage: that the husband gets 100% full custody of children born in the marriage. Child support, in current form, would be eliminated. If the kids are sufficiently young that it makes more sense to have them stay with mom, then HE could negotiate with her how much she would want in order for them to live with her.

316 posted on 03/13/2018 8:53:42 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: ladyjane
He pre-deceased her but until the day he died he never told her who he was leaving his estate to.

If they stayed married until he died, then it obviously worked out.

317 posted on 03/13/2018 8:55:44 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

It worked out in the sense that they still lived together. It’s hard to know how happy anyone is in a marriage. It was his 3rd and her 4th marriage.

It seems cruel not to tell her that right after he dies she must move out of the house because it’s to be sold. That’s a surprise while she’s grieving. He couldn’t have been real happy to do something like that. I guess they used each other for what they wanted.


318 posted on 03/13/2018 9:09:54 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: ladyjane

Did she get any money from the estate?

If the house would need to be sold in order to have assets for the estate division, then I could see that. She would have had the option of buying the house, at fair market value, from the estate.


319 posted on 03/13/2018 9:16:39 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: PapaBear3625

She was not hurting for money. She had her own assets and she is now living in a place that is even more upscale. It wasn’t really about money. (Of course it’s always about money or power in some way. )

But he refused to tell her what he had decided. And she apparently didn’t have the option to stay there and buy it at fair market value. She would have had the money to do that.

Beyond having to move, how cruel can you be if as you are dying you work deals with your lawyer, knowing that the spouse you are leaving is hurt by it. Maybe he was afraid she’d get angry and put a pillow over his head.


320 posted on 03/13/2018 9:42:44 AM PDT by ladyjane
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