Don't stop dating other men until your boyfriend proposes, says self-styled 'Get the Ring' [tr]

UK Daily Mail ^ | March 23, 2018 | Siofra Brennan

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

I see at least as many women unwilling to commit as guys; I don't know the answer. Women always think they can do better and won't settle, guys are afraid to lose all they've worked for in the courts.

That's completely true. But if a guy asks a girl to marry him, and she says "no" or "not right now -- I'm not ready to commit yet", I wouldn't blame the guy if he started dating other women to see if he can find someone who may be ready when he is.

[WASCWatch]

That’s what I did. Worked like a charm.

Speaking as a guy, a man is not committed until, as Dr. Laura says, a ring and a wedding date.

And just why do some people assume the woman was sleeping around prior to getting married?

[DesertRhino]

It does make you manipulate though. And she’ll do that throughout tree marriage.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

If she’s dating other guys, he’s not her “boyfriend.”

Maybe not. But there's nothing wrong with her putting him on the spot -- or vice-versa -- if one or the other is dragging their feet on a commitment. Maybe the guy (or girl) will realize that they really don't want to lose the other and make a commitment, or they'll just break up.

But I wouldn't fault a man or a woman who wasn't willing to wait indefinitely for the other person to make up their mind rather than be strung along forever.

[rb22982]

"The guy is probably dating other women. Why shouldn’t the woman?"

What makes you say that? Most guys, especially moderately to very successful ones, don't have time to date around, even if they wanted to do so. First two-three months I'd agree with keeping it non-exclusive, but there is zero chance I'd ever have committed to marrying a woman who hasn't shown she can commit pre-marriage (been married for nearly 12 years so mute point at this point, but my wife and I went exclusive dating after 2 months and I proposed a bit after a year)

[factoryrat]

And I bet that she dates other men, even after getting married.

Either way, I still wouldn’t trust her.

[thoughtomator]

Boys not growing up is a direct result of the generations-long assault on the role of men. If there’s no role left for the men they would become, they have little motivation to grow up.

[rb22982]

Every woman doesn’t have sex with casual dates. Most women don’t.

LOL Maybe a couple gens ago that was true - not anymore.

[PapaBear3625]

It was easier remaining a virgin until marriage when you were married by 15.

I'm wondering if it might not be better for society for women to get back to getting married young? Maybe not 15, but preferably by 22, when she finishes college? That way, she has more of her prime fertile years ahead of her.

[anton]

That’s a good approach in the UK where the men are all cucks who tolerate their soon bride to be getting it from all sorts of random guys. Here in the New World we like our women to be faithful even before engagement.

[ladyjane]

I don’t understand your response. Why should an expectation be different for men and woman?

[dfwgator]

[rb22982]

The reality more often is the girlfriend giving the boyfriend all the sex he wants until she gets him to “put a ring on it” then cutting him off and denying sex, which leads to divorce and ka-ching, she walks with half. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Yup - an unfortunately extremely common story.

[Bruce Campbells Chin]

Exactly how long should a woman wait when the guy she is dating exclusively won't propose? I don't see it as a "trick" at all. It's completely upfront and direct. Here's her explanation. Frankly, it simply sounds like the "old days" where people might wait for an engagement before having sex.

"She...doesn't want to waste time being someone's girlfriend for years, especially when he has no clear intention of offering her marriage or the commitment she wants.

'The way the system is built, masculine men who aim to settle down themselves and want to commit and have a family, will love a decisive woman who knows what she wants and will give her the commitment she deserves, if they are serious about her and in love.

If not, they will say no and that helps both parties to move on quickly, without giving false hopes or promises.<

The system only ensures that you don't offer full husband benefits to such a man, that only wants to offer you girlfriend status.

I can't really find fault with that. The woman doesn't want to give a guy unlimited sex who has no intention of making a commitment to her.

[rb22982]

I think you need to re-read what I said. I didn’t say anything about different expectations for men and women. I asked why you assume the man after a long period of dating would still be dating other women.

[WASCWatch]

I’m sure she won’t mind if her BF does the same! What’s good for the gander is good for the goose and all that.

She probably doesn't mind. She is making it very clear that she knows she is desirable enough to expect a commitment from a great guy and isn't afraid of her current relationship with the guy ending.

Such a woman is far more desirable than one who is so lacking in confidence that they cling to any relationship. A woman like that will just be used by men who won't commit.

Every good man should want such a confident woman.

[NorthMountain]

Sami Wunder

OK ... that's her Stripper Name. What's on her birth certificate?

[Wyrd bið ful aræd]

As an under 25, I can that you perception is a bit dated. People are animals these days, men and women, and they rut like them too.