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California's Summer Gas Is Approaching $4.00/gal
9 April 18 | hapnHAL

Posted on 04/08/2018 8:20:00 PM PDT by hapnHal

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To: max americana

I just paid $2.25/gallon to fill up my Ram 1500 environmental monster here in Texas. I did not feel the pain. California deserves the pain for their bad decisions.

Oddly due to very superior engineering in the Ram 1500 engine I get only very slightly less miles per gallon than my old Hyundai Santa Fe. If I am pulling my trailer it is much better mpg than my old Santa Fe. The Santa Fe was a very good vehicle. The Ram 1500 is far superior.


41 posted on 04/08/2018 10:16:05 PM PDT by cpdiii (cane cutter, deckhand, roughneck, geologist, pilot, pharmacist, THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: hapnHal

California sucks.


42 posted on 04/08/2018 10:19:16 PM PDT by GOPJ (While China was distracting DC & Congress w/cash China cornered the Earth Elemental Markets...)
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To: hapnHal

I remember back when gas was a dime a gallon God I’m old!


43 posted on 04/08/2018 10:22:48 PM PDT by W. (.44 Magnum. No further questions needed.)
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To: gubamyster

Since when has the vote of the people in California never been overridden by liberal politicians or judges in that state? I am surprised Prop 13 hasn’t been overturned and has lasted as long as it has.


44 posted on 04/08/2018 10:45:27 PM PDT by CatOwner
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To: Artemis Webb

“It’s a CA problem. Here in Springfield Missouri gas is $1.34.”

Fact check?


45 posted on 04/08/2018 11:25:16 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1)
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To: max americana

it is but barely. the house has been republican for years.


46 posted on 04/08/2018 11:36:25 PM PDT by Raymann
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To: TexasGator

They are only off by 65% or so. ;-) Am showing the lowest price in Springfield, MO is $2.21 at Sam’s Club.

https://www.gasbuddy.com/Station/Sam’s%20Club/MO/Springfield/122084


47 posted on 04/08/2018 11:39:46 PM PDT by Drago
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To: Neidermeyer

They have a cap’n’trade tax on gasoline and refiners as well.


48 posted on 04/08/2018 11:58:15 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: FreedomPoster

California tax is 41.7 cents per gallon (5th highest in US) plus the cap’n’trade carbon tax plus 2.25% sales tax on total cost per gallon.

But Californians can be smug about all they’re doing to combat climate change (i.e., nothing significant.)


49 posted on 04/09/2018 12:04:41 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: hapnHal

I paid 2.38 per on Friday....price always goes up with spring break.....


50 posted on 04/09/2018 12:14:58 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Parley Baer

Yes they did.


51 posted on 04/09/2018 1:30:07 AM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: hapnHal

Up the burrito and hot sauce production. That should bring the gas prices way down.


52 posted on 04/09/2018 1:47:52 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Gee, MM, You are on a roll this morning...lol


53 posted on 04/09/2018 1:48:56 AM PDT by Ambrosia (Southern Born/Bred..NC. Lived in: NC, PA, NY, WV, NM, SC, FL)
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To: rockinqsranch

#29. Buy a used YUGO. That will save you a lot of money, if you live long enough when you drive in Calif.


54 posted on 04/09/2018 1:51:15 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Artemis Webb

“Here in Springfield Missouri gas is $1.34.”....

$2.59 in central Wisconsin


55 posted on 04/09/2018 3:10:00 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Skepolitic

Based on my math, that’s $0.129/gallon for the cap’n’trade tax, based on a current CNT auction cost of $14.52/metric ton of CO2 (indulgence cost), and a gasoline conversion factor of 8.887 × 10-3 metric tons CO2/gallon of gasoline burned.

Sources
CNT indulgence cost
https://www.arb.ca.gov/cc/capandtrade/auction/auction.htm
Conversion factor
https://www.epa.gov/energy/greenhouse-gases-equivalencies-calculator-calculations-and-references


56 posted on 04/09/2018 3:48:16 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: rockinqsranch

Ouch. And I assume that’s the 91 craptane “premium” you Californians enjoy, and not the 93 octane stuff we get here in most of the rest of the country?

With modern engines with knock sensors and computerized engine management, this affects output.


57 posted on 04/09/2018 3:55:40 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Ouderkirk; Skepolitic

See post 49 from skepolitc and my post 56.

It is hard to get to an exact number. You can play around with those line items, then you still have a hidden tax caused by special CARB formulation requirements and the shortage of West Coast refineries, caused by decades of envirowhackoism. So it’s not something for which there is a clean, straightforward number.


58 posted on 04/09/2018 4:04:25 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: hapnHal

$3.30 in Western WA state. .70 of it tax.


59 posted on 04/09/2018 4:14:52 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: GOPJ

I think that was Browns campaign slogan?


60 posted on 04/09/2018 4:16:36 AM PDT by Leep (Make The Swamp Small Again!)
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