Posted on 04/12/2018 7:23:06 AM PDT by C19fan
Awesome! Sounds like fun times.
Nibiru AND the Rapture. Personally I hope “the Grey aliens” show up too then it’ll really be a party.
I am listening. How many are to be raptured ? All those who suddenly turn to God because they think they are going to die ?
“There is no “Rapture”.
There is only the Second coming of Christ.”
Christ is already here. The “rapture is merely us being raised up to perceive Him.
Oh NO! We are all going to die again.
We are in agreement on this.
You would think these people would have learned a little lesson after the predictions they made last year based on astrology and half-baked scriptural interpretation completely failed to amount to anything.
When it comes to date-setting and forcing your own meaning on to Biblical text, if at first you don’t succeed, DO NOT try and try again!
Amen, but good luck convincing many of that, no matter how clear the Bible is on the subject.
Well, maybe if one of them was standing in front of me, then wasn't...
The Rapture is pseuso-Christian, kind of a mixture of a poor reading of the Bible and astrology.
Nah, man, remember: “Jesus is coming.... everyone look busy!”
Hmm, maybe the rapture did really happen then and that is why none of the FReepers who were so adamant about it being true have been speaking up lately...
What does Brother Stair have to say?
All the dead are ressurected at the end of time, and the saved given glorified bodies then, when He returns for the final judgment of all man.
That’s what is going to happen when He returns. Everyone who has ever existed will be raised from the dead, their bodies returned to them. The damned are judged so damned publicly, all their sins exposed for all to see and they will then be sent to eternal separation from God. The saved, also raised, will be not only given a body back, but will have a glorified body (like Christ’s after His Ressurection) and their sins recounted too. But for them, unlike the damned, their list of sins will not be source of eternal shame and torture but a source of glory for them and God because it will also be revealed how they were forgiven of all their sin (because they sought and recieved such forgiveness where the damned did not)
This has been Christian understanding and tradition concerning eschatology for almost 2,000 years. As was pointed out upthread, the idea of a “rapture”, as in a half return of Jesus, wasn’t “discovered” until the 19th century.
I don’t know about anyone else but I’m sticking with a teaching more closely associated with the time of the apostles and their students than some 19th century preacher’s imagination.
I was wanting the excuse to watch my boxed sets of Barnaby Jones and Cannon. Great QM productions.
Can I walk around furiously with a sheet of paper in my hand and an intense look on my face... does the trick at work. haha.
1 Thessalonians 4 says differently...unless you want to deny straight clear meaning scripture. Arguments of when it will occur well...that is another matter. ( 16For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will be the first to rise. 17After that, we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will always be with the Lord. 18Therefore encourage one another with these words.…”)
Now if you can point to a time in scripture when this has happened; let the rest of us know. The other issue with your statement is that why should graves be literally opened and the dead in Christ allow to rise first(and is there a time lapse between the 2) if it is merely a change in ‘spiritual perception’. The Mount of Transfiguration was a “perceptual spiritual unveiling” for the disciples but they weren’t “changed” by it. 1 Thessalonians 4 speaks of something completely different all together; perception, physical change and spiritual expansion to being full heirs of salvation in Christ Jesus is what the passage speaks of!
Also 1 Corinthians 15:51-58 speaks of this:”51 Behold! I tell you a mystery. We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52 in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed. 53 For this perishable body must put on the imperishable, and this mortal body must put on immortality. 54 When the perishable puts on the imperishable, and the mortal puts on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written:
“Death is swallowed up in victory.”
55
“O death, where is your victory?
So deny the Rapture, you deny the word of God!
Not this shit again!
Didn’t everyone tell us the world ended already when Trump was elected?
1 Thessalonians: (NIV)
16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage one another with these words.
Luke 17: (NIV)
34 I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. 35 Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.” 37 “Where, Lord?” they asked. He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.”
Mark 13” (NIV)
24 “But in those days, following that distress, “ ‘the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; 25 the stars will fall from the sky, and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’ 26 “At that time people will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. 27 And he will send his angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens.
John 14:
3. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.
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