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Should Quantum Anomalies Make Us Rethink Reality?
Scientific American ^ | 4/19/18 | Bernardo Kastrup

Posted on 04/27/2018 12:52:16 AM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: exDemMom

Gender identity is a function of the dominant aspect of consciousness, regardless of gender.


21 posted on 04/27/2018 4:03:16 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: NonValueAdded

Yes. :)


22 posted on 04/27/2018 4:12:00 AM PDT by dangus
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To: NonValueAdded
So is the cat dead or alive?

Yes, and No.

23 posted on 04/27/2018 4:45:33 AM PDT by Bitman
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To: NonValueAdded

Bring a Costco rotisserie chicken home and you’ll find out right away if your cat is alive


24 posted on 04/27/2018 4:50:17 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicans aren't born, they're excreted." -Marcus Tillius Cicero (3 BCE))
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To: neverevergiveup

I agree entirely. It’s actually amazing to me how much we can comprehend, or at least conjecture about, with our 3-3.5 pound brains, and the flickering short existence our lifetimes in this world represent.

I once read an article that proposed the human brain itself is connected to some dimensions beyond the readily observable, which might account for our seeming ability to hold more knowledge than 3 lbs of organic material should be capable of holding. A hidden, but spiritual level perhaps?


25 posted on 04/27/2018 5:11:02 AM PDT by Flick Lives (F*ck the FBI)
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To: NonValueAdded

I will find out this morning. I have two mugs, one with a live car and one with s dead cat. The cats become visible when I poor coffee in them.


26 posted on 04/27/2018 5:14:40 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
Just follow Einstein’s “Theory of Relativity” - everyone has relatives.

Ah, yes - "The more you amass money, the closer to the speed of light your relatives approach. And busty gold diggers, too."

27 posted on 04/27/2018 5:19:15 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (In God We Trust, In Trump We MAGA)
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To: LibWhacker

Ridiculous! Reality is just fine, thank you, without “scientists” telling us that reality is not reality.


28 posted on 04/27/2018 5:22:24 AM PDT by I want the USA back (There are two sexes: male (pronoun HE), and female (pronoun SHE). Denial of this is insanity.)
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To: wastoute

So you’re saying that things can’t exist unless they have a PLACE to exist. In these cases, that “place” is the observer.

It’s the “tree falls in a forest” koan.


29 posted on 04/27/2018 5:26:55 AM PDT by IronJack (A)
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To: LibWhacker

If a tree falls in the woods, does it make a sound? That depends....


30 posted on 04/27/2018 5:38:25 AM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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To: NonValueAdded

Wanted:


31 posted on 04/27/2018 5:41:09 AM PDT by wally_bert (I didn't get where I am today by selling ice cream tasting of bookends, pumice stone & West Germany)
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To: wastoute

Great insight!


32 posted on 04/27/2018 5:50:38 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: IronJack

I think the important thing to realize is that our current concept of reality is flawed in that we have this perception that “the speed of light” is the necessary upper limit on interactions. From the example i have given in regard to the radiation of IR in a hard vacuum it is clear this is not the case. The fact that the photon cant leave until it has a place to go means there is an instantaneous interaction between the atom that radiates and the one that receives but in spite of that immediacy the photon cannot actually transfer that energy any faster than the speed of light. It is like there are two different things going on. In regard to the ability to transfer the energy it is like the two atoms are in direct contact but in the actual transfer they are in different locations. IMHO the issue you mention about needing a place to exist and that place is the observer is an imaginary metaphysical conundrum that exists only because of our limited understanding. IOW we are being distracted by something that is unimportant and failing to see what is staring us in the face. The question about the tree falling in the forest is man’s attempt to put himself at the center of the Universe IMHO.


33 posted on 04/27/2018 5:51:07 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: tired&retired

On my bookshelf.


34 posted on 04/27/2018 5:53:30 AM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: IronJack; wastoute

I read it as a form of energy generally thought to roam free can’t move in space/exchange its energy until a spot somewhere else has already received it. The delay should be measurable by the speed of light for the transmission of the energy wave/particle, but the final effect (heat transfer) occurs instantaneously—even if totally across the universe.

It has a parallel with entanglement.


35 posted on 04/27/2018 5:57:50 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Thank you. So the “next step” for me seems to be what we are witness to in what we refer to as “reality” is not so much “Plato’s Cave” or even Kesey’s “Movie Theatre” but something infinitely more complicated. Mass and distance are almost illusions connected by light. Something very strange is going on here. And think about the constraint you mention in regard to “it seems the photon can’t move until it has a place to land”. So photons that left stars in galaxies billions of light years away left that star before our planet, much less my retina, were even created? Sort of smashes our concept of time.


36 posted on 04/27/2018 6:08:29 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: LibWhacker

We are being told how naive we are to think you can build a big beautiful majestic universe on a small number of principles our puny human brains can comprehend.

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Maybe that’s the case if a person is a strict determinist like Einstein. But others, who believe in free will, would expect to find something odd like QM.


37 posted on 04/27/2018 6:11:32 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: wastoute

So, at least the heat from that star continued to reside where it was until our eyes caught it.

But the photon was allowed to move, without bringing with it the heat.


38 posted on 04/27/2018 6:16:50 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

But the photon couldn’t leave until it had “permission” and that permission was given billions of years ago. Bizzare. It seems to point to an “inter connectedness of all things” at an extremely intimate level.


39 posted on 04/27/2018 6:25:05 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: wastoute

I agree that “something very strange is going on here”.

Science’s demand for strict materialism is part of the problem and not part of the solution.

Consciousness may well permeate many things that we believe have no consciousness—and may be an integral part of all that is...


40 posted on 04/27/2018 6:38:07 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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