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Should Quantum Anomalies Make Us Rethink Reality?
Scientific American ^ | 4/19/18 | Bernardo Kastrup

Posted on 04/27/2018 12:52:16 AM PDT by LibWhacker

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1 posted on 04/27/2018 12:52:16 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
I was going to respond, but as I began composing my reply, i realized what a dumb question is being asked.

Even if I was to compare / contrast what comes out of public school with the real world, the reality is never questioned ...

What people THINK and why should be challenged ... not reality.

But then ... these are scientific Americans .... /;^)

2 posted on 04/27/2018 12:59:29 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: LibWhacker

Huh?

Just follow Einstein’s “Theory of Relativity” - everyone has relatives.


3 posted on 04/27/2018 1:12:21 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: LibWhacker
"Should Quantum Anomalies Make Us Rethink Reality?"

Democrats make me rethink reality.

Their anomalies, contradictions, hypocrisies and paradoxes defy reality.

I fail to grok how we can co-exist in the same universe; it's like matter & antimatter.

4 posted on 04/27/2018 1:25:44 AM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC ("Blessed are the young, for they shall inherit the national debt" - Pr. Herbert Hoover)
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To: LibWhacker

I suggest the author test reality this way: step off a fifth floor ledge.
If he falls, he has confirmed reality...


5 posted on 04/27/2018 1:26:45 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: LibWhacker
Operationally, all this is captured in the notion of “non-contextuality”

That right there makes a hell of a lot of sense; whether it's GOOD sense or not remains to be contemplated.

Where is Professor Irwin Corey when you need him?

6 posted on 04/27/2018 1:36:05 AM PDT by Migraine ((A smartass who is right can be downright funny. A smartass who is wrong is just a smartass.))
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To: LibWhacker

The strange behavior of QM could be telling us that the Universe or God really does self create.


7 posted on 04/27/2018 1:44:00 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Darksheare

Each generation believes they are wiser, smarter, better than the previous because “It’s self-evident!” It has never been true. Indeed, it is often provably untrue. What is funny is that practitioners of the Science of Speculation (Philosophy) like me have been saying this for centuries. The hard sciences are just now catching up.


8 posted on 04/27/2018 1:53:31 AM PDT by Fai Mao (I still want to see The PIAPS in prison)
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To: Moonman62

What blows me away is that everytime mankind closes in on an understanding of reality, it makes a sharp lefturn and dives down some damned rabbithole we had no idea even existed. We are being told how naive we are to think you can build a big beautiful majestic universe on a small number of principles our puny human brains can comprehend.


9 posted on 04/27/2018 2:19:02 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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So is the cat dead or alive?


10 posted on 04/27/2018 3:09:48 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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The Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose - J.B.S. Haldane


11 posted on 04/27/2018 3:13:59 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: LibWhacker

The Bible discusses the universe, all we consider reality, as something that God can deconstruct as if were a rug that he can roll up. Are the quantum scientist starting to realize this may be true?


12 posted on 04/27/2018 3:22:43 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: LibWhacker

This article entangled concepts that are not even related, when it compares cultural interpretations of reality and quantum mechanics. For example, some languages have many words for snow. We see the same snow they do, and we even see the same variations of snow. But we only have one word because to us, the distinctions between types of snow do not warrant inventing new words. And if it is important to distinguish between two types of snow, we still have the ability to describe them.

Another thing is that the weirdness of quantum phenomena does not manifest at the macro level where we exist, except in the e!event of random chance. If it did, scientific research would become impossible. We may have different languages to describe what we see, but scientists studying the same thing do, in fact, come up with the same results no matter where they are or what language they speak. Or, in simple terms, a person with XY chromosomes and normal hormones and hormone receptors is still a man, even if he calls himself a woman and wears a dress.


13 posted on 04/27/2018 3:24:34 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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"We are being told how naive we are to think you can build a big beautiful majestic universe on a small number of principles our puny human brains can comprehend."

I agree entirely. It's actually amazing to me how much we can comprehend, or at least conjecture about, with our 3-3.5 pound brains, and the flickering short existence our lifetimes in this world represent.

14 posted on 04/27/2018 3:26:51 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: LibWhacker

I learn much more when things don’t go as expected than when they do.

Never stop thinking, but realize that Thomas Kuhn’s “ Structure of Scientific Revolutions” is a very accurate book.


15 posted on 04/27/2018 3:46:32 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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I recall a quote, supposedly attributed to Einstein, that goods something like:

“Before I heard your lecture, I was confused on this subject. After hearing you speak, I am still confused, but at a higher level.”

A lot of the supposed “entanglement” being discussed here is nothing more than the fact that language is used by human beings to describe their environments and that individual human beings have differing levels of access to words to describe the attributes of objects.

As we grow, we acquire (or should be acquiring) more and more vocabulary words to help us describe sensory inputs. Using the example from the article, it takes a lot of personal and collective education/experience/interest to go from a specific perceived sound the identifying it as a thrush “singing.”

My descriptive vocabularity for color is going to be more limited than say, a professional color consultant. This limitation is not a limitation on the object but on the part of the observer’s education, experience, and frankly, interest in the subject. The particular color of an object, which is a function of the wavelengths of the visible light spectrum it does not absorb, is independent of who is observing the object.

The same is true for other physical properties it may possess. They are attributes of the object and they do not change with the observer. I take this to be the “noncontextuality” being referred to. The “Quantum entanglement” being discussed seems to come down to a complaint about the lack of a specific enough vocabulary to describe what is being observed.

On a separate note, the article’s author(s) do their audience no favors by assuming it has a deep, prior education in the details of the cited experiments being conducted to prove or disprove “noncontextuality” and “quantum entanglement.” Scientific American magazine has a educated but non-specialist readership and article content should be pitched at that level.


16 posted on 04/27/2018 3:46:52 AM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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“So is the cat dead or alive?”

I have thought for a long time that Schrodinger made an unfortunate choice by putting a sentient being in that box, rather than, say, a light that would either be on or off depending on a random radioactive decay event. That’s because the cat itself is an observing system (if it is alive and awake). If an observation collapses a superposition, the cat itself will do the job.


17 posted on 04/27/2018 3:52:37 AM PDT by Stirner
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To: LibWhacker

I’ve found that reading quantum mechanics explains my experiences and perceptions during meditation.

Perception of reality is a function of the level of consciousness from which you view it. I merely tune my consciousness into the gamma frequency which is the rate of the action potential firing rates of the pyramidal cells in level 3 of the cerebral cortex and other peoples stored memories in their soul becomes physical to my perception.


18 posted on 04/27/2018 3:54:11 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To the point where at higher frequencies consciousness expands and so does processing speed.

This causes my perception of time and space to collapse.


19 posted on 04/27/2018 3:56:45 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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Something about reality has been puzzling me. Some time ago i read that NASA and other space engineers have a problem that causes difficulty. Now i am not a physicist but i do remember the high points of my Pre Med Physics. The “Black Box” radiation problem arose by simple observation of an event that was not novel to mankind but was seen some 100 years ago with “new eyes”. When pottery is glazed it is heated to temperatures so high that the wavelengths of all light leaving each surface is the same and the objects in there “disappear”. This observation really sparked modern physics.

Back to NASA, engineers design vehicles for space have a problem. How to dissipate heat. It seems there is something about a hard vacuum that makes this difficult relative to a planet surface where there is a lot of mass to dissipate heat to. At first glance this doesn’t seem unusual. It makes sense, there is nothing there to radiate heat TO. But back up. Why should this be so? Why cant a hot surface just radiate heat in all directions into an environment which is ABSOLUTE ZERO? One would think you could radiate all the heat you wanted down that gradient. Turns out that a photon of IR light leaving a surface has to have a “place to land before it can leave”. Isn’t that curious? As i said, i am not a physicist but seems to me that right there is a fact that we need to consider the ramifications of very slowly and deliberately. I have no idea what is meant by “entanglement” but this sounds like it is that kind of thing. A photon leaves an atom and the energy it takes is drained away and transferred to the atom upon which it lands and travels “at the speed of light” en route. But it can’t leave until it has a “place to go”. So there is an instantaneous event on both ends that does very much “exceed the speed of light”. So a Universe built on location has something about it that is NOT local and that something is elemental in the fabric of reality.


20 posted on 04/27/2018 3:56:46 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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