Posted on 05/04/2018 9:37:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Here are 4 sources. There are dozens more though and there is some ambiguity as to whether their first detonation was February or early August 1945. There is also speculation that they delayed surrendering after Hiroshima, because they thought they might be able to nuke the US with their own bomb if they had only a few weeks more.
Also, at the end of the war, Russia took all of Japan’s nuclear scientists out of North Korea to keep for themselves.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_nuclear_weapon_program
https://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/new-documents-found-pointing-to-japanese-atomic-bomb-pr-1722338915
https://www.atomicheritage.org/history/japanese-atomic-bomb-project
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2016/05/the_japanese_were_trying_to_make_an_atomic_bomb_too.html
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These specific reports were dismissed in a review of the book by Department of Energy employee Roger M. Anders which was published in the journal Military Affairs,[24] an article written by two historians of science in the journal Isis[25] and another article in the journal Intelligence and National Security.
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My Brother-in-Law was stationed in Okinawa in the early 1950s.
I recall his once mentioning that the Japanese look down on Okinawans even tho it is technically a part of Japan.
Three days. August 6th, 1945 at 8:15am Local Time and August 9th, 1945 at 8:14am Local Time.
Thanks.
The kamikaze threat would have made the pure blockade option pretty unattractive. I imagine a ‘distant blockade’ similar to what Britain did to Germany 1914-18. Also, the Navy wanted to seize Formosa instead of the Philippines. Perhaps invading Formosa would have been revisited to use as a blockade staging area.
Thanks, but I was referring to evidence of the detonation you mentioned, *that* would be something I’d never heard of being proven. Of course they were trying. No doubt they would have used it if they had it.
FWIW, I was born on August 6th, so a lot of interest in nukes in general :-)
Ask a survivor of the invasion of Okinawa how he feels about it.
Evidence of Detonation is more difficult and North Korea is using the same site that the Japanese used. We can, however, thank a German U-boat commander for Japan not getting uranium or plutonium. A week before the fall of Germany, Hitler took the bulk of the German uranium and plutonium stocks, split it into 2 shipments and put each half on a different submarine. A Japanese sub got half and a German kriegsmarine sub got the other half. Both departed for Japan on the same day. The Japanese sub sank before getting to Japan. The German sub commander didn’t like the Japanese and upon hearing of Germany’s defeat, steamed towards the closest US ship to surrender and present them with his cargo. The German uranium and plutonium was delivered to New London, Connecticut and flown to our atomic bomb project for use in our bombs. The German materials were actually used to build Fat Man and Little Boy, because we didn’t have quite enough of our own to do the job.
How many Japanese were killed by the Imperials for refusing to serve the Emperor?
Japan is estimated to have murdered 20,000,000 non-Japanese, or about the same number as Herr Hitler.
Nuking japan was the only way to end the war quickly with the least casualties. Sometimes, some have to die to save the many.
So you are saying the USA delivered Hitler’s Uranium to Japan, for him! ;^}
Funny because I have moved further towards violent actions of war while the public has moved against it. I use to adhere to Protestant Just War theory. But today I reject that. Just War teaches we must conduct war in a way that is just. Today I believe our soldiers should come first in any consideration. And if a certain act will save the lives of OURS, we should NOT take any option off the table.
Just War theory would likely condemn the actions of Hiroshima. The better theory is, that we should conduct war with hesitation, but when we do we should use any and all means possible to win. That will change from time to time and depending on the circumstances.
And I think we generally acted under the better theory in world war 2. We absolutely destroyed Dresden. To those that lament that, my response is “Sucks to be you if you decide to start a war.” Germany started the war, so I have little sympathy for their position on Dresden.
Damn right.
They had working ones hidden in a mountain and ready to launch - sorry I cannot remember the sources - was too many decades ago - before the internet.
Yes, it missed the fact that the Japanese population regarded the US as “violently sieging their homeland”. When the US dropped propaganda notices, the knee jerk response from the population was to turn those notices in to authorities.
As far as they were concerned THEY were in the right, and there was no damn way they would fold under duress, or respond to a the stick and carrot.
According to the excerpt I posted, there was only one jet, a prototype flown one time.
As far as I understand the population centers near Hiroshima saw a white flash, but had no clue as to what it was. It took days for information to start pouring in. Even then, they were mainly living in total denial.
I’ve never heard of this before....
“Barely... the emperor had to step-in to break the deadlock after Nagisaki. That was unprecedented. Even then there was a coup attempt by some Army officers that nearly succeeded.”
I read that the generals were all for continuing the war.
One civilian minister took the unusual move of directly asking the emperor for his opinion.
It was then that emperor Hirohito made the decision for surrender.
No civilian minister had ever asked the emperor to give his opinion.
The army held the strong hand and didn’t let go.
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