The Next Big Discovery in Astronomy? We Probably Found It Years Ago...

Space.com ^ | 6/3/18 | Eileen Meyer

[null and void]

Data Firehose?

More like Data Niagara Falls!

Slowly I turn...

[Getready]

Since the light or em radiation from objects we now access is supposedly what happened many many years ago...could it be possible that those objects no longer exist at this very moment?

[V K Lee]

If true, Thomas More has probably posted a picture of it from the NASA archives. He was/is? very much on top of such things.

Where did he go as those are no longer found?

Astronomy Picture of the Day Archive
https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

There is so much out there to discover. AWESOME!

[dhs12345]

Absolutely. And how is it possible that we are viewing events that happened billions of years ago at at the beginning of the universe yet it is impossible for matter to travel fast enough to be that far away in lightyears according to special relativity?

[Teacher317]

could it be possible that those objects no longer exist at this very moment?

Not only possible, but quite likely in many cases. What we see as dying stars that are 150 million miles away are almost surely fully dead by now.

[TexasGator]

A review a the beginning of the universe should be your first step.

[dhs12345]

Magic?

[LibWhacker]

Yes. Today if we see a supernova 12 billion light years away, it surely is no longer either a star or a supernova. The nebula has dissipated and the core has probably become a neutron star after passing through its pulsar phase. Yes, I would even go so far as to say that not many large scale objects we see far out (billions of light years) in space are still what they appear to be, red dwarfs, galaxies and supermassive black holes excepted, even if we hypothetically could see everything that’s out there that far out.

[TexasGator]

I see you have not taken the first step.

[dhs12345]

Lemme guess. Space-time and matter as we know it didn’t exist so SR didn’t apply. Like a massive space-time warp.

[dragnet2]

Yep. The distances are mind bending.

When I initially saw the Hubble images of Eagle Nebula, (Pillars of Creation) years ago, I was flat out blow away, not only by the image, but the size of it. So much so, I had to see it for myself.

I shot the above image a few years back, not Hubble quality, but I didn't have Hubble's budget either.☺

However, it was a supernova explosion which blew them apart. But as you know, their image will linger for another thousand years as it takes that long for light to travel from there to Earth.

The size? The pillar on the left is about 23,462,784,000,000 miles in length, that's **23 trillion** miles tall.

And the whole thing was blow away!☺

[Swordmaker]

A Gravity Driven Astronomer blithely talks about Black Holes and videoing jets of "hot gases" ejected by such a Black Hole but continues avoiding discussing what hot gases really are, charged Plasmas. He avoids ever asking how such a jet can remain cohesive over hundreds of light years of distance without obeying Boyle's laws and diffusing in to the space available, nor does he ask why these "hot gases" have an obvious lobed shape or what that lobed shape may actually look like in 3D. If he were to ask and start answering these questions, he'd have to face the fact that charges and electromagnetism exists in space, something denied by orthodox cosmology which explains what he is seeing. . . and, in fact, starts explaining why the universe doesn't need "thousands of Black Holes" of "Dark Matter" or "Dark Energy" to work. Just in the same way as Gravity Astronomers and Cosmologists cannot rationally explain the The ButterFly Nebula would exist in a Gravity driven mode but the Electric/Plasma Universe Astronomers and Cosmologists can. —Electric Universe PING!

Clear Example of a Birkeland Current
"Z" Pinch with Symmetrical Plasmids
seen in Hubble Telescope View of
The Butterfly Nebula
ELECTRIC UNIVERSE PING!

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[sparklite2]

Of course. It’s also possible the universe has already collapsed and we’re seeing only what used to be. There is nothing to prevent our obliteration; that it hasn’t happened yet is so far, so good, but no guarantee it won’t happen before you finish reading this.

[sparklite2]

Absolutely. And how is it possible that we are viewing events that happened billions of years ago at at the beginning of the universe yet it is impossible for matter to travel fast enough to be that far away in lightyears according to special relativity?

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Matter isn’t ‘traveling’ in that sense. It is sitting ins space, riding the expansion of the universe, and there is no limit to how fast the universe can expand.

[dhs12345]

So that would mean that as the nothing something boundary is still propagating outward like an expanding balloon.

[sparklite2]

No boundary. Think of it as the surface of a basketball the is being inflated. Based on what we’ve observed, the universe is likely finite, not infinite, but unbounded. What does that mean? It is measurable, but there is no edge.

[minnesota_bound]

Aliens and their spaceship being kept at Area 51 in Nevada.

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Swordmaker. Additional ping to APoD list.

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[Red Badger]

Celinedeion.............