Posted on 06/07/2018 2:17:28 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
You have not only nailed an eternal truth; you also have a very kind attitude. Continue to walk in beauty, FRiend.
Get your life in order and good things come into it.
Perhaps I’m not understanding their complaints clearly, but could there be a problem with THEIR expectations of the type of woman they hope to date?
I mean, they talk about how inadequate they are. Aren’t there plenty of women who feel similarly about their features or appearance who also feel deprived of a relationship with a man because they see themselves as not pretty enough?
Are they unhappy unless they can be a member of the Brangelina and Bennifer crowd? (Perhaps those are not the best examples since both of those couples ended up splitting.)
“Incels believe that, due to reasons entirely beyond their control- too short, too bald, too weak a jawline- they cannot attract a female partner.”
These whiners fail to realize that if they didn’t have all of those perceived shortcomings they would simply have a larger number of women regarding them with contempt.
‘Incel’...has to be one of the stupidest movements ever concocted... they ought to brand an ‘L’ on their foreheads...
No, there aren’t plenty of women in that situation. The ‘equivalent’ subreddits where lonely women go to complain attract a small number of women with complaints ilke all the men that ask them being the wrong type or that their last relationships failed.
Women have a stronger buyers market than ever and no real need anymore for providers or even a husband. Services like Tinder have turned finding men into catalog shopping. Any woman who just wants some attention can put her picture on a dating service and receive messages from dozens or hundreds of men who think she is pretty enough to date. If she actually wants to date, she can just flick off the unattractive men and then only talk to the best looking ones to ascertain if she wants to go out with them or not.
That’s why God invented liquor.
“Women have a stronger buyers market than ever and no real need anymore for providers or even a husband. Services like Tinder have turned finding men into catalog shopping. Any woman who just wants some attention can put her picture on a dating service and receive messages from dozens or hundreds of men who think she is pretty enough to date. If she actually wants to date, she can just flick off the unattractive men and then only talk to the best looking ones to ascertain if she wants to go out with them or not.”
I don’t buy this. I suppose if the premise is that sex is the same thing as a relationship, then sure, women have an advantage because pretty much any woman willing to “put out” can find some man who is more than happy to have sex with her.
But if we are talking about an actual relationship, and more than just sexual encounters, I suspect that there are more lonely women than men. But that’s just my opinion. No objective data to support it.
There are far more ways to find someone and make romantic connections today than ever before. However, our society seems to be ever-increasingly superficial. So I DO believe it is more difficult to succeed in romantic relationships today in spite of more opportunities. It does not help that most of us have no chance to measure up to the standards of perfection in the media.
I don’t see romance and sex being so separable. An extra requirement, perhaps. I doubt you’ll find too many women interested in pursuing romantic relationships with men they wouldn’t choose for sexual relations, particularly women accustomed to having sexual encounters with men of their choosing.
As a result, I tend to see indecent behavior (and its consequences, such as accusations of rape) as not only repellent, but strange.
“I don’t see romance and sex being so separable.”
Obviously they go hand in hand. My perception though is that there are more men focussed on the physical act of sex and more women focussed on the emotional aspects of sex such as romance. (Or do I have it backwards with sex being the physical aspect of romance?) And of course men and women have an interest in both.
“I doubt you’ll find too many women interested in pursuing romantic relationships with men they wouldn’t choose for sexual relations, particularly women accustomed to having sexual encounters with men of their choosing.”
Yes, but you will find a lot of men who just want the sex and despise the larger part of a relationship as just unnecessary work to get what they want. This kind of attitude represents defective thinking about relationships on the part of such men, of course. And I’m thinking many of these “incels” may have this problem. But I am speculating.
What I am proposing is that these so-called “incels” should at least make the attempt to communicate with women online based on more than just seeking sex. Perhaps they are not really involuntarily celibate but are too lazy to put forth the most minimal effort to form a relationship.
I have a less optimistic view of folks. I think the vast majority of people are not even all that close to “decent.”
But for folks who are truly trying to be “decent,” I think it’s possible to arrange one’s life in a way that most people one encounters aren’t too terrible.
But there are a large number of bad apples. And it is likely that even decent young men will encounter at least a few very nefarious young ladies who wish to prey on them. It’s a little bit of a lottery. Whether one gets “bitten” by one of these asps is not entirely in one’s control.
“just pay for it “
It’s never free, baby...
I agree.
I like your story, especially the part, “I know without a doubt that he will absolutely end anyone who threatens us. Anyone.”
Strong alpha males are attractive because there’s nothing better than feeling safe.
It sounds like these incel guys hate women — maybe for good cause; I don’t know. But if they go into a new relationship there’s a good chance the woman will feel those vibes and not want to invest time and energy with this person.
Or, he could hide those feelings for a while, a relationship develops, and then become verbally abusive when he feels safe to be himself. She walks; he whines. It becomes her fault.
You nailed it. Of course.
google “David Hogg incel”.... they’ve found his reddit acount
I had the impression these guys never even got the first date, but perhaps you’re right. Sounds like something a good therapist could help resolve.
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