Skip to comments.Not a Cold War, Not World War III: What to look for from Russia
Posted on 06/26/2018 1:32:18 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
Is the United States embroiled in a new Cold War with Russia? Are we on the verge of WWIII? After a week in Moscow and conversations with several Russian foreign-policy analysts, I think the answer to both questions is negative.
We are in a hybrid war, a successor to the Cold War, says Dmitri Trenin But dont call it Cold War 2.0; otherwise you will confuse things. America and Russia are jousting on new battlefields information space, cyberspace, economic battles.
What then is one to make of Vladimir Putins military interventions in Ukraine or his venture in Syria? Or of the Russian leaders state of the nation speech March 1, in which he touted new nuclear weapons, complete with a promotional video showing an undetectable cruise missile landing in Florida?
What is Putins foreign-policy strategy?
Some analysts here insist he seeks recognition as Americas equal, a desire born of the psychology of his generation that still sees the world in terms of a U.S.-Russian divide.
But others argue Putin is trying multiple approaches hybrid war to burnish Russians international image in a world where he thinks the United States is on the decline. He expects the United States to gradually lose its hegemonous position in the world, and as it does, there are plenty of opportunities, says Lukyanov.
In other words, in the post-Cold War era, the Kremlin will poke and prod where there is no resistance, and pull back where there is.
(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...
And Putin's Russia is a test to see how long Russians will indulge their Soviet and tsarist tendencies with Orthodox wrapping, in the name of sticking it to the decadent West.
John Bolton is heading to Moscow this week w/ members of Congress not far behind to arrange a rumored Trump-Putin summit, and maybe catch some World Cup soccer.
When Russia starts harassing Americans sitting at restaurants then I will worry about them...
Trump and Putin are best buddies according to the media but we are at war with them.
Of course we are
“What then is one to make of Vladimir Putins military interventions in Ukraine or his venture in Syria?”
Yeah, a NATO expansion up to his very border including plans to make Sevastopol a NATO navy base, and a scheme to remove Russia’s decades long ally in Syria. An Ally that gives them what is basically their only overseas base.
So yeah, what is one to make of that? Complete freaking mystery.....to a neocon.
Or he could just keep focused on leveraging his incredibly smart people and wealth of natural resources to build-up his own country to greatness, and keep his nose out of other peoples’ business.
Yeah, I know. Will never happen.
Whatever form of government should come into power in the Russian Federation, or its predecessors, the Soviet Union or Czarist Russia, the Russian hegemony was always going to be a rival to the United States. Whatever else may be said of Russians, they have, to some degree or another, much of the same drive and initiative to carve a nation out of sometimes very inhospitable conditions and terrain, that formed and extended the United States in its early formative years.
But once the nation was carved out, the competitive spirit did not vanish. The Russians, much like the Americans, could call upon vast natural resources to extend their international presence in ways that imposed upon economics and trade. This has resulted in more than a few instances, the US and the various incarnations of the Russian government in direct confrontation, sometimes with severe displacements. The Russians have always had great interest in disrupting the internal operations of the United States, to gain some advantage to themselves, and to some degree, these attempts to exert control within the US itself have led to some pretty trying times.
Trump and Putin best buddies? No, but they recognize in each other a formidable adversary, in a way the several of our past Presidents (with the distinct exception of Ronaldus Magnus) could not or would not. And FDR was probably the worst of the bunch, who looked upon the Soviet Union as a possible model for the first attempts to assert a “command and control” regime upon the US, as shown by the National Recovery Act and the New Deal, both of which prolonged what would been a short economic turndown, and turned it into the Great Depression.
It took the Second World War to pull the US out of that depression, which frankly was much worse in 1938 than it was in 1933, when FDR and his “brain trust” took office.
The problem was not that the Russians were Communist, but that the Communists were Russian :-)
“Trump and Putin best buddies? No, but they recognize in each other a formidable adversary, in a way the several of our past Presidents (with the distinct exception of Ronaldus Magnus) could not or would not.”
Trump and Bolton may surprise the world with some kind of cooperation (rather than just a dialing down of tensions, which would be fine all by itself). I am hoping for that...we’ll never be great friends in my lifetime, but we can begin to cooperate and become more friendly through such cooperation and through trade, and I think that this is the way to go. We have a lot in common, starting with being largely white, largely Christian, scientifically-oriented powers of continental size, with Chinese and Moslem enemies. Cooperation will benefit both, and can lead to friendliness.
“What is Putins foreign-policy strategy?
Some analysts here insist he seeks recognition as Americas equal, a desire born of the psychology of his generation that still sees the world in terms of a U.S.-Russian divide.”
Russia is a Third World country with a First World nuclear arsenal. It cannot sustain a prolonged arms race, nor keep up with us in commerce.
What we SHOULD do is to find areas of common interest with Russia, and cooperate there. That, and expand trade. The combination of the two will make us friendlier (not friends, but friendlier), and both reduce the possibility of conflict and boost the chance for actual friendship way down the line (as in 1-2 generations).
effin’ idjits don’t know the difference between ‘war” and “bidness”.
Both the USA and Russia are in business. Sometimes our interests coincide....sometimes not.
But to call it a “war” is to confuse the issue...and consequently the thinking about it.
A bit more on the economic disparity between the US and Russia: with an economy 12x as large as Russia’s, 3.0% growth in the economy in one year equals 36% growth in Russia’s; if (as reports seem to indicate) our economy grows by 4.0%, then we are adding 48% of Russia’s economy to ours - in one year!
There IS no comparison between the two. Yes, occasionally Russia will pull a technological rabbit out of its hat (mainly in materials science), but by and large the US is not only leading, but pulling away both economically and technologically. Most of this is due to corruption in Russia, which is very akin to what is holding back the Mexican economy.
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