Posted on 07/06/2018 10:11:26 AM PDT by Blue House Sue
I show it to the pool attendant at my home owners association.
Or are you switching back to arguing there were no rules again?
But firing him for being a racist when he is not will get them sued for libel and they will lose.
Nowhere in any article did it state the HOA confirmed her membership. The HOA office was likely closed due to the federal holiday. If that is something that came out later, Mr. Bloom had no access to that information AT THE TIME this was occurring.
Nowhere in any article did it state the HOA confirmed her membership. The HOA office was closed due to the federal holiday. If that is something that came out later, Mr. Bloom had no access to that information AT THE TIME this was occurring. THAT is a failure in the system...not Mr. Bloom.
our rental townhouse has a pool, and you have to bring your pass every time, or you don’t get in. They could know you from yesterday, but if u forgot the pass, you get turned away.
I like it. It keeps out unauthorized users.
Home Owners Associations (Bunch of @$$holes in my opinion) make up extra rules for people who live in them. My advice is don't live in them.
I'm pretty sure they have a rule that says you have to show your ID if asked by an official.
If you are an exclusive owner, you can do that. If you share ownership with a bunch of other @$$holes, and they all get together and write bylaws and other Homeowners association crap, and their rules require you to prove residency to use the pool because they have so many owners that they don't really know each other, then you can't do that. You have to show your ID.
"...Unless the state of North Carolina has a provision in its laws that require people to show their state issued identification to a duly elected HOA Pool Chairman..."
The state of North Carolina laws do not require such a thing, nor is Mr. Bloom a police officer. The HOA BY-LAWS givern this situation, not the laws of North Carolina......"
In case you hadn't heard, there are RULES, and there are LAWS in this country (and oh, yeah...a United States Constitution, too...have you read it???).
If I bring 12 items into the 10-items or less line at Walmart, I have broken a RULE, not a LAW. The Walmart check-out person is within their rights to point out the sign (which I implicitly agreed to when I entered the store and chose to shop there) and then to ask me to count the number of items in my basket. I won't be arrested, nor will the checker who asks. Are you really that clueless??
Without seeing a copy of the HOA By-Laws that Ms. Edwards (or whomever owned the pool card she used) signed, there is no way to persecute Mr. Bloom. The By-laws spell out the requirements for residents to use the pool (including ID), and also the responsibility of the Pool Chairman in enforcing the rules. I have yet to see evidence that Mr. Bloom is a Neo-nazi, selectively enforcing race-based pool rules. (smh)
"...I understand that some people would prefer to live in a society where random private citizens can walk up to you demand to see your identification documents..."
Likewise, I (and no doubt many others here judging from these responses) understand that some people would prefer to ignore the rules of society (or their HOA) and act like what applies to everyone else doesn't apply to them. Ms. Edwards may be one of those people.
And FRANKLY I think you may be, also, Blue House Sue.
He committed a physical assault against a minor. He crossed an actual legal line. This Bloom guy might at worst be an @$$hole, but so far as I can tell from this story, he has done nothing for which he should either be fired or ostracized. This is another fake racism scandal like many others we've seen in the last decade.
WHEN was this stated? Was this information available to Mr. Bloom either before said incident or at the time this was happening?
Yeah, I thought not. Hindsight is 20-20.
Ordinarily no, but a homeowners association is a special case. Homeowners in the association have to sign legal agreements binding them to the association rules. If they do not follow the rules, the HOA can legally force them to do so or force penalties out of them.
My advice to people is to stay out of Home owners associations. They are often a collection of arrogant @$$holes who want to lord it over on other people.
LOL....tooooo true
Not relevant Drew. She had it and she showed it to the cops.
This is a case of her taking umbrage at being asked to show it.
"...that left neighbors..."
I see nothing in that letter that confirms Ms. Edwards was a member, or authorized to be there.
Being called a "neighbor" does not confirm that one is a member of the HOA.
Most "members" of things are not called "neighbors."
The police are the normal means by which potential criminal/civil legal issues are initially resolved. He did what a reasonable person would have done when confronted with a person refusing to identify their residency in the community to someone tasked with making certain only residents used the pool.
Absolutely nothing at all. IF she is a member, and has paid her dues, and has that type of membership, she does have that right.
What hasn't been proven is that she is actually a member of the HOA.
There are many, many HOA's that have different types of memberships that entitle their members to different amenities in the community. I lived in a golf community that has social memberships which entitle use of the club house but not the pool, tennis courts or golf course, golf memberships that entitle one to golf but not necessarily tennis or the pool, pool memberships for use of the pool only, but not the golf course, etc...
In those By-Laws (which I HAVE read....) both ID and a membership card were required to be presented. I had no problems with providing such when asked to do so. I agreed to those rules/by-laws, and I am as bound by them as the HOA is.
Unless one is a bigger badder law enforcement officer who can play "my badge is bigger than yours", one does not argue with law enforcement officers when they make a wrong decision. One accepts the decision if it is in any way tolerable, and one takes it up with their superiors or through a lawyer at a later time.
VERY good point!
When I was in the paving business, a HOA was a particularly bad experience.
The people who usually ‘volunteered’ for these positions were hardly EVER in the type of job where he/she had to put up with the likes of an Asphalt Crew.
Used to call them ‘shoe clerks’, spent their day having women telling them that their ‘size 8 foot was actually a size 5’ so when he got to deal with tradesmen - in a position of ‘authority’ - they turned downright mean.
Also, EVERY tenant is a ‘boss’ over the paving job and expect ‘you’ to follow their every whim, them just ‘knowing’ you took extra care with XXXX’s parking spot etc etc.
Finally got to the point where ONE person was ‘allowed’ to speak to me and ESPECIALLY the crew. Anyone with a complaint had to go through the HOA rep to get to ‘me’.
Being a good businessman, I made sure the HOA rep had fresh coffee, donuts and lunch every day.
Called ‘leverage’ and ‘buying love’<: <: <:.....
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