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The Vietnam War: A Film by Ken Burns & Lynn Novick (vanity)
PBS ^ | 2017 | Ken Burns&Lyn Novick

Posted on 07/14/2018 12:04:36 PM PDT by eastforker

Ken Burns and Lynn Novick’s ten-part, 18-hour documentary series, THE VIETNAM WAR, tells the epic story of one of the most consequential, divisive, and controversial events in American history as it has never before been told on film. Visceral and immersive, the series explores the human dimensions of the war through revelatory testimony of nearly 80 witnesses from all sides—Americans who fought in the war and others who opposed it, as well as combatants and civilians from North and South Vietnam. Ten years in the making, the series includes rarely seen and digitally re-mastered archival footage from sources around the globe, photographs taken by some of the most celebrated photojournalists of the 20th Century, historic television broadcasts, evocative home movies, and secret audio recordings from inside the Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon administrations. THE VIETNAM WAR features more than 100 iconic musical recordings from greatest artists of the era and haunting original music from Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross as well as the Silk Road Ensemble featuring Yo-Yo Ma.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: communistrevisionism; fakeumentary; history; thingyoudidntknow; vietnam
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To: AU72
I have friends now who were soldiers of Hà Nội. I wonder how the other side is presented in this series. The old soldiers I know say the wrong side won, and if the Americans had invaded and conquered the North the country would be as rich as South Korea now. One says the revelation came to him when they went into Sài Gòn and saw how modern it was compared to the cities in the north. One was a soldier in the jungle for years before it finally dawned on him that they were not fighting the Chinese.

Hà Nội recruiters went into the mountain and rural villages in which people knew nothing of the world except that China was the eternal enemy. The recruiters (more like press gangs) just said you have to go to fight the invaders.

101 posted on 07/14/2018 1:36:56 PM PDT by ThanhPhero
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To: dfwgator

LOL - I’ve always suspected that.

I was born in that era. One of the lies (impressions) of American history promulgated by education/pop media in my life was the Nixon started and pushed the Vietnam War. Imagine my surprise to find by my own parents and so on that no, it started even before Johnson and Kennedy & Johnson pushed to get into it, and Nixon ended it.

Another example of how commies have taken over and drive the narrative, depending on who is in the WH (commie Dem or non-Dem).

Sort of like all the “homeless” who suddenly appear when a Repub takes office and disappear when a Dem does.


102 posted on 07/14/2018 1:38:46 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Snickering Hound

The one saving grace was that it was Vietnam that did go in and remove the Khmer Rouge.


103 posted on 07/14/2018 1:39:42 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Chainmail

God bless you, sir.

So sad to think how VN vets have been treated, either directly or indirectly with commie dreck taking over everything.


104 posted on 07/14/2018 1:41:28 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Started with Ike sending the “advisers” there.

Problem is, once those advisers start dying, what are you going to do?


105 posted on 07/14/2018 1:41:55 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ThanhPhero

And in the North they all loved Uncle Ho. In this film are many interviews with old NVA an VC soldiers. Also how many NV women were in combat and support roles.


106 posted on 07/14/2018 1:43:08 PM PDT by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: dfwgator

No, Vietnam isn’t now a “Workers Paradise” as some would have you believe.

http://www.atimes.com/article/a-democratic-revolution-has-just-begun-in-vietnam/


107 posted on 07/14/2018 1:44:45 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: eastforker

When the article said “icon music”, it turned me off. The Vietnam war wasn’t about a bunch of hippy-dippy types playing guitar.


108 posted on 07/14/2018 1:45:05 PM PDT by CodeToad
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To: dfwgator

We supported the French and then France left with us holding the bag.


109 posted on 07/14/2018 1:45:21 PM PDT by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: CodeToad

No , but it did have an effect on what went on stateside.


110 posted on 07/14/2018 1:46:51 PM PDT by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: eastforker

Further proof that everything bad that happens in the world is somehow related to the French.


111 posted on 07/14/2018 1:47:14 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: CodeToad

And then there was this bit from Cheech and Chong...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2-29SW61FQ
“Oh wow man, somebody’s talking pretty bad about Roger.”


112 posted on 07/14/2018 1:50:44 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator
The one saving grace was that it was Vietnam that did go in and remove the Khmer Rouge.

Kicked Mao out of Vietnam when the war was over too.

Even fought a war that the Chinese got mangled in.

113 posted on 07/14/2018 1:59:45 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: eastforker

Ken Burns? He may as well have had Hanoi Jane as a co-filmer for all I care. There’s nothing he does that I’m the slightest bit interested in.


114 posted on 07/14/2018 2:00:21 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: laweeks

I think he did a good job with this one. Put your bias aside and give it a shot.


115 posted on 07/14/2018 2:02:07 PM PDT by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: Chainmail

he added on Baseball i think and maybe one other. I think ops should assume what he will say and do nothing but bitch on the internet.

I stand by my comment, it was greta piece of work and deserves place in the record.


116 posted on 07/14/2018 2:03:03 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Chainmail

I know the stuff you posted. I was an adult at the time and informed.


117 posted on 07/14/2018 2:04:04 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: marron
"That, and as now, a Democrat Party that was in league with the devil."

PTSD One day at the office, a co-worker asked me how it was that I served multiple tours in Vietnam as a combat infantryman and I didn’t get PTSD. My rather flippant answer was “I didn’t get PTSD in Vietnam, I gave it.”

However, this PTSD question made me wonder exactly what PTSD is and what the symptoms are, so I did a little research on the subject and found that I did indeed possess symptoms of Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) concerning a traumatic and very stressful incident that occurred during my last tour in Vietnam. I was a professional soldier when the traumatic incident occurred and had accumulated several tours in Vietnam engaged occasionally in close combat with a vicious and cunningly capable enemy, but the traumatic event was not as a result of close combat with this enemy.

One day when I was totally focused on closing with and destroying the enemy, something caught my eye, I looked around and found a new enemy had unexpectedly appeared behind me; it was the American people. The same Democrat Party who had originally sent me to Vietnam promising that, “We shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and success of liberty,” had now sided with the Communists I was fighting. They were parading in the streets of the United States under a Viet Cong flag, were quoting from Mao’s Red Book, and were spitting on and flinging insults at returning Vietnam Veterans. Then, a Democrat led Congress cut off funding for the Vietnam War, American combat troops were withdrawn and we abandoned a valiant ally to their fate.

I was ordered out of Vietnam in 1972, and when I arrived at Travis Air Force Base/ Oakland Army Terminal, purposely in the dark of the night, I was advised to change out of my uniform and put on civilian clothing to avoid being attacked by the American people when I entered San Francisco. I was not at all surprised when a few decades later these same people elected a Marxist-Communist as President of what was once my country.

Yes, the deep, burning hatred I feel for the Democrat Party to this day could be diagnosed as a symptom of PTSD, and I assure you, every Vietnam Veteran I know feels the same way.

118 posted on 07/14/2018 2:07:53 PM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: DJ Taylor

In November 1918 the American people voted out the Democratic party from power in Congress in a devastating midterm.

Keep in mind the Armistice would be signed a week later.

And Wilson had 100% control of the media, anyone who wrote anything against the war or the soldiers would be tossed in prison.

Americans were tired of their kids being drafted and sent to a mud hole across the world.


119 posted on 07/14/2018 2:13:03 PM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Snickering Hound
Kicked Mao out of Vietnam when the war was over too. Even fought a war that the Chinese got mangled in

Ho said once, "I'd rather smell French s___ for five years than Chinese s___ for a thousand years."

120 posted on 07/14/2018 2:14:11 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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