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The Vietnam War: A Film by Ken Burns & Lynn Novick (vanity)
PBS ^ | 2017 | Ken Burns&Lyn Novick

Posted on 07/14/2018 12:04:36 PM PDT by eastforker

Ken Burns and Lynn Novick’s ten-part, 18-hour documentary series, THE VIETNAM WAR, tells the epic story of one of the most consequential, divisive, and controversial events in American history as it has never before been told on film. Visceral and immersive, the series explores the human dimensions of the war through revelatory testimony of nearly 80 witnesses from all sides—Americans who fought in the war and others who opposed it, as well as combatants and civilians from North and South Vietnam. Ten years in the making, the series includes rarely seen and digitally re-mastered archival footage from sources around the globe, photographs taken by some of the most celebrated photojournalists of the 20th Century, historic television broadcasts, evocative home movies, and secret audio recordings from inside the Kennedy, Johnson, and Nixon administrations. THE VIETNAM WAR features more than 100 iconic musical recordings from greatest artists of the era and haunting original music from Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross as well as the Silk Road Ensemble featuring Yo-Yo Ma.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: communistrevisionism; fakeumentary; history; thingyoudidntknow; vietnam
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To: eastforker

If you want to watch Ken Burns, watch Ken Burns.

Just be aware: you’ll end up with a treble hook in your jaw.


41 posted on 07/14/2018 12:40:29 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: x

The government of South Vietnam was screwed up, alienated the majority Buddhist population in favor of the minority Catholic population. Hard to win “Hearts and Minds” in that environment.


42 posted on 07/14/2018 12:41:05 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Lumper20

To each your own, still a very informative film and I’ll say my thoughts.


43 posted on 07/14/2018 12:42:03 PM PDT by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: jeffersondem

I did watch “The War” about World War II. Thought is was relatively ok, by Burns’ standards.


44 posted on 07/14/2018 12:42:25 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: eastforker

Burns’ movies are liberal hack jobs. He’s an America hater. I managed to gag my way through the Civil War series he did (really the War of Southern Secession).


45 posted on 07/14/2018 12:42:53 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SkyDancer

That may very well be. Still, how many people know or knew that Vietnam was occupied by the French since the 1800’s.


46 posted on 07/14/2018 12:45:36 PM PDT by eastforker (All in, I'm all Trump,what you got!)
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To: dfwgator

If by “in name” you mean the party still maintains its monopoly on political power, its surveillance state and its coercive secret police power then you are correct.


47 posted on 07/14/2018 12:46:16 PM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Heston’s documentary is called:

TELEVISION’S VIETNAM and is presented in two parts: The Real Story and The Impact of Media.


48 posted on 07/14/2018 12:47:34 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a Russian AK-47 and a French bikini.)
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To: The Free Engineer

Then it’s now just your typical authoritarian State that allows private ownership. But for the most part people in Vietnam are pretty much indifferent to politics and unless you make waves, the government pretty much leaves you alone.

Not ideal, but far from what you had in the Communist states during the Cold War.


49 posted on 07/14/2018 12:48:31 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator; eastforker
The government of South Vietnam was screwed up, alienated the majority Buddhist population in favor of the minority Catholic population.

Some people turn that around and say that at least Diem had some authority and when he was killed we really lost a chance to win. Hard to know what to do under those circumstances.

I didn't find the series sympathetic to North Vietnam or the Viet Cong. The focus was more that with enemies determined to lose millions of lives there was no way we could have won (without utterly destroying the country and our own reputation).

50 posted on 07/14/2018 12:50:41 PM PDT by x
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To: eastforker
"What can I say except this story is told with nothing held back.

Of do pound sand - that stupid thing was wall-to-wall Leftist horsewash. They cleverly only featured battles that we had a hard time with and left out the operations where we kicked VC and NVA butt (which was almost all the time).

They also managed to completely ignore the pro-enemy American communists who were the backbone of the "antiwar" crowd. Bastards had a regular commuter services to the enemy's capital and our own government just let the treasonous swine go on uninterrupted. I love the VC flags and the Ho Chi Minh chants at the demonstrations; they'd never have pulled that kind of crap on the WW II vets.

Want to ask me about our war? Fine. I spent seventeen months in combat with some of the best young men ever to wear our country's uniform. All of the refugees came to us, not to the enemy - but don't depend on Ken Burns or any other Leftist propagandist to show the truth.

51 posted on 07/14/2018 12:51:49 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: eastforker

no one is listening to reasoned opinion because Burns can’t possible do anything right.

I watched the 9-11 part VN documentary years ago. Burns brings in the North explanation of tactics and effect in Hanoi like none I’ve seen. His coverage of polices in the US and SBVN seem spot on to me. I saw McNamara Fog of War and I’ll take Burns over that.

He’s soldiers comment about the battles for hills and cities is riveting. Comments from family members back home what i recall from my friends families.

His body of work is impressive from baseball to Jazz to the wars. he’s young and doing service to the country that no one has done and he is using modern technology to do it.

Conservatives pool your money and see of you can get close to what he does. Very doubtful. People are staring to die from VN and soon many testimonies will disappear. He serves a valuable service in recoding these events with actual participants.

I look forward to the next one.


52 posted on 07/14/2018 12:52:08 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: x

But I still say, the US didn’t lose the war, South Vietnam did.

Vietnamization was never going to work.


53 posted on 07/14/2018 12:52:28 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: morphing libertarian

Battlefield: Vietnam was a much better series.


54 posted on 07/14/2018 12:53:07 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SkyDancer

Yes. Been there done that. Never watched that piece of crap.


55 posted on 07/14/2018 12:54:28 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: SoCal Pubbie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsYwdCoOIEI

Both parts of the AIM documentary are available on YouTube.


56 posted on 07/14/2018 12:54:31 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a Russian AK-47 and a French bikini.)
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To: Chainmail

write him letter and ask him to interview you for an addendum. All him to give more opinions from conservatives. List the topics you think he omitted or glossed over. Give me the list and I’ll post it on the web sites I frequent.


57 posted on 07/14/2018 12:54:46 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: dfwgator

was that the long series maybe 9-11 parts PBS That’s what I saw and Fog of War which was interesting but narrow scope..


58 posted on 07/14/2018 12:55:54 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: x

“The soldiers interviewed had different experiences and different views on some of the details, but it looked like all of them ended up in the anti-war movement and the Vietnam Veterans Against the War.”

They are also the same soldiers that are drug out anytime a negative impression of America’s involvement in Vietnam is needed. I know a lot of Vietnam vets who might provide a different point of view if ever asked.


59 posted on 07/14/2018 12:56:04 PM PDT by yetidog
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To: eastforker

The impression I get is that while the Vietnamese very much still celebrate defeating the French, they don’t talk too much about the US part of the war.


60 posted on 07/14/2018 12:56:30 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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