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Russia Struggles to Mourn the Romanovs 100 Years On
Moscow Times ^ | Jul 2018 | Ala Creciun Graff

Posted on 07/18/2018 10:03:26 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

July 17, 2018 marks 100 years since Russia’s Romanov family was executed by Bolsheviks in the basement of the Ipatiyev house in Yekaterinburg.

Yet outside Yekaterinburg, the 100th anniversary of Romanovs’ deaths is passing with little notice from the government. The memory of Nicholas II’s and his family’s deaths remain largely unprocessed.

The death of the Romanovs remains a controversial moment in Russia’s history. Tsarism and Bolshevism are — for the most part — not presented as conflicting forces in a battle in which one order defeated another. Rather, tsars, Bolsheviks and later communists, are seen as a succession of “greats.” In Moscow, visitors can admire the glamour and grandeur of the tsars at the Historical Museum in the Red Square before lining up for the Lenin Mausoleum only a few steps away.

Today, Russia is facing a rise in the popularity of pre-Revolutionary culture alongside an enduring Soviet legacy. According to recent polls by the Russian Public Opinion Research Center (VTsIOM), the popularity of Nicholas II, as well as Lenin and Stalin, has increased considerably since 2008. President Vladimir Putin, who embraces one-man “greats’” from all Russian eras, embodies this unusual combination.

The national narrative of “greats” also stands at odds with academic interpretations, which take a critical perspective of both Nicholas II’s often inept governance and of the Bolsheviks’ violent excesses.

The canonization of Nicholas II and his family by the Russian Orthodox Church as Christian martyrs in 2000 diminished their identity as political actors subject to academic scrutiny.

The narratives of conflict and violence have been subsumed by narratives of “great” leaders. This cult of greatness celebrates impact over ethos. It nurtures a vacuous understanding of Russia’s political traditions and legacies at a time when Russia’s fledgling civic values require a recognition of the past.

(Excerpt) Read more at themoscowtimes.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: nicholasii; romanovs; russia
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1 posted on 07/18/2018 10:03:26 AM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

How do you “struggle” to mourn something?


2 posted on 07/18/2018 10:09:36 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Pretty sad what happened to them. They weren't evil people, and there was no need to execute them.

I think of the miracle of our American Revolution, and its lack of vindictiveness and bloody political retribution. That's truly unique in the history of revolutionary change.

The crop of evil left wing Americans we have now, had they the opportunity, would make Robespierre, Lenin, and Pol Pot look like kindergarten teachers.
 

3 posted on 07/18/2018 10:09:59 AM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (MAGA in the mornin', MAGA in the evenin', MAGA at suppertime . . .)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

4 posted on 07/18/2018 10:11:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (July 2018 - the month the world discovered the TRUTH......Q Anon)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I give Russia points for welcoming up to 15,000 Boer/Afrikanner farmers that the West has mostly ignored.


5 posted on 07/18/2018 10:12:32 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Red Badger

It certainly was a good looking family.

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6 posted on 07/18/2018 10:12:43 AM PDT by Mears
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

My wife does not actually like to talk about it, but she is closely related to the Romanovs and was named after Queen Alexandria. She has a rare bone disorder that was common in royalty related to all of the interbreeding. Her condition was the subject of a paper which was the doctoral thesis of a physical therapist that she once went to.


7 posted on 07/18/2018 10:12:47 AM PDT by fireman15
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
not presented as conflicting forces in a battle in which one order defeated another. Rather, tsars, Bolsheviks and later communists, are seen as a succession of “greats.”

You know, the Russians get it right.

We here in the West are obsessed with trying to put past history into a modern context, and it doesn't work. We just end up destroying our culture in the process. The Russians aren't making that mistake.

8 posted on 07/18/2018 10:14:35 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Mears

Not only were they executed, but their bodies were dismembered and scattered.

Their maids and other servants were executed in the basement as well.

Those who survived the first round of volleys were systematically executed with a bullet to the head...............


9 posted on 07/18/2018 10:17:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (July 2018 - the month the world discovered the TRUTH......Q Anon)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

“I think of the miracle of our American Revolution, and its lack of vindictiveness and bloody political retribution”

Disagree. Read up on partisan warfare in NC/SC.


10 posted on 07/18/2018 10:18:00 AM PDT by Rebelbase ( Tagline disabled.)
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To: Red Badger

I read Massie’s books when they were 1st published——time for some re-reading.

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11 posted on 07/18/2018 10:21:41 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Red Badger

The Doctor was offered the chance to survive if he chose to join the Bolsheviks, but he refused.


12 posted on 07/18/2018 10:22:14 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a8072/russian-tsar-execution/


13 posted on 07/18/2018 10:24:10 AM PDT by Red Badger (July 2018 - the month the world discovered the TRUTH......Q Anon)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
p01c
14 posted on 07/18/2018 10:25:32 AM PDT by Snickering Hound
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

What is keeping the American left at bay is that many Americans are ARMED.


15 posted on 07/18/2018 10:28:10 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: PGR88
How do you “struggle” to mourn something?

A peculiar word choice by the author which suggests apathy or indifference, but the USSR made even thinking such things illegal, and effectively scrubbed their 'history' for 70 years. Much damage was done to the Russian collective memory and we see the result in an AIDS, drug and crime infested country. I doubt they long for the good old days of being tossed into lubyanka prison never to be heard from again.
16 posted on 07/18/2018 10:29:55 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Czar

Czarina 1895

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17 posted on 07/18/2018 10:30:10 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: fireman15

The young Romanov son was a hemophiliac, I understand.


18 posted on 07/18/2018 10:30:57 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: dfwgator
We here in the West are obsessed with trying to put past history into a modern context, and it doesn't work. We just end up destroying our culture in the process.

Exhibit A: The Stephen Foster Memorial Statue here in his hometown of Pittsburgh being torn-down because the imagery in his songs was "racist".

Foster lived from 1826 to 1864. I dare say NOBODY alive at that time held what we would consider racially enlightened attitudes in 2018.


19 posted on 07/18/2018 10:35:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: tbw2

“I give Russia points for welcoming up to 15,000 Boer/Afrikaner farmers...”

Wow! Didn’t know that! Why aren’t we doing the same? All we get are more Muslim savages.

Russians are surely welcoming Afrikaners as their fellow whites, given their huge Muslim problem in Chechnya & Central Asia.

But there’s nothing inconsistent about Russians admiring both Tsars & Red dictators. Both were authoritarian forms of rule, which Russians seem to prefer to democracy.


20 posted on 07/18/2018 10:53:15 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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