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Japan: 2,600 guns, swords found buried under school
Guns.com ^ | 08/08/18 | Chris Eger

Posted on 08/08/2018 9:24:38 AM PDT by Simon Green

A Tokyo suburb is working on clearing a cache of long-buried ordnance unearthed while working on a local elementary school.

The Nishitokyo Municipal Government has released details of stacks of seriously deteriorated military rifles, machine guns, swords, and grenades found last week during construction at Tanashi Elementary School. The vintage hardware came to the surface when crews performing drilling work started running into the items at a depth of 3-7 feet on July 27. Since then, an estimated 1,400 firearms, 1,200 “swords” and eight practice grenades have been cataloged.

From the images, most of the well-decayed weapons are pre-1945 vintage and, judging by what is left, appear to be a mix of various models of Arisaka rifles, Type 11 and Type 96 light machine guns, Type 3 heavy machine guns, grenade throwers, and bayonets.

Both local police and Japanese military authorities were called in to render the area safe. The weapons were characterized as “training guns” in a statement.

The city government has temporarily relocated school operations while they conduct further excavations. While some may be kept as historical pieces, most, according to a release “will be disposed of appropriately based on consultation with the police station.”

The Mainichi daily noted that, while unexploded ordnance and WWII-era weapons are still sometimes found in the country, “it is rare for weapons used by the now-defunct Imperial Japanese Army to be recovered in such a large quantity at one time.”

It is not clear if the site of the current Tanashi school was a campus during the war, but Japanese Army officials made it a point to impart military training to students as part of their regular curriculum at the time.

Following the surrender of Japan in September 1945 and the demilitarization of the Imperial forces under the watchful eye of Allied troops, much of the arms and equipment turned in was scrapped, exported as trophies, or simply dumped at sea.


TOPICS: History; Local News
KEYWORDS: banglist; japan; nishitokyo; tokyo
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1 posted on 08/08/2018 9:24:38 AM PDT by Simon Green
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Sucks all the weapons appear to be rusted out.


2 posted on 08/08/2018 9:28:25 AM PDT by C19fan
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A few vats of Metal Rescue might help some.


3 posted on 08/08/2018 9:30:03 AM PDT by wally_bert (Just call me Angelo or babe.)
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To: Simon Green

Hmmmmmm, some would call them Gunsmith Specials, priced cheap.


4 posted on 08/08/2018 9:30:12 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (?? forgetaboutit.)
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To: Simon Green

Weapons were stashed in many places in preparation for the American invasion of Japan.


5 posted on 08/08/2018 9:31:23 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Simon Green

So THAT’S where I put them!


6 posted on 08/08/2018 9:31:30 AM PDT by Lazamataz (The New York Times is a racist hate group. It is Propaganazism.)
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Nishitokyo …
The literal translation is “Western Eastern Capital”. Funny construct, and it would not exist if the city were still called Edo.
7 posted on 08/08/2018 9:36:22 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: wally_bert
The firearms appear to be a dead loss. The grenade launchers (”knee mortars”) might, MIGHT be salvageable to demilitarized relic status. Some of the swords and bayonets might be restored; but only to the lowest grade of collector items.

As a collector (even though not of WWII Japanese items) it makes me sad.

8 posted on 08/08/2018 9:50:37 AM PDT by VietVet
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“Japanese Army officials made it a point to impart military training to students as part of their regular curriculum at the time”...

Sounds like going to that school would have been a hoot to practice with machine guns. All we had was .22 bolt action rifle teams.


9 posted on 08/08/2018 9:56:22 AM PDT by shotgun ( .)
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Looks like the small arms of a whole infantry battalion.
There would have been larger mortars too, I would expect.

Funny the ammo isnt there.


10 posted on 08/08/2018 10:04:32 AM PDT by buwaya
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To: VietVet

...makes me Sad

A little cosmolene,,,
Call me in the morning.


11 posted on 08/08/2018 10:09:11 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY)
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To: Simon Green

This is quite close to where I live. I’m going to need to get out more with the metal detector. I’ve been salivating for a find like this. I’m stepping up my game from now.


12 posted on 08/08/2018 10:11:31 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

The coolest things I dug up so far we’re three .50 BMG shell casings on Takao mountain from a Des Moines armory, and stamped with ‘44 and ‘45. Worthless, but an awesome find. Still trying to figure out how they got there. Shot down plane, dumped from an injured plane...no idea still...
Makes a great pen holder for the desk.


13 posted on 08/08/2018 10:15:24 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.)
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To: lefty-lie-spy

WWII U.S. fighters generally dump ammo casings out of ejection ports in the wings when firing. In bombers, I think the casings just pile up in the fuselage.


14 posted on 08/08/2018 10:29:12 AM PDT by Rinnwald
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To: shotgun

Sounds like going to that school would have been a hoot to practice with machine guns. All we had was .22 bolt action rifle teams.

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You weren’t going to be invaded by 50-60 American army divisions.


15 posted on 08/08/2018 10:36:21 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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If only they had been buried properly for use later on. Cosmolene in containers may have preserved them. Even so, 80 years buried is a stretch.I own a WWII M1911 that was stored wrapped in cosmolene and is in mint condition.


16 posted on 08/08/2018 10:54:03 AM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Simon Green
Could we get David AttentionHogg's statement on this? I don't know what to think until I hear his opinion...😀

That said, it is sad that it is ruined...😥

17 posted on 08/08/2018 10:58:07 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: Simon Green

These are clearly weapons that were hidden for use if the US invaded...and they’d have likely been used to kill a bunch of our men. Thanks, Harry, for that bold decision you made - while not many of those men are still alive 73 years on, their kids, grandkids and great-grandkids ARE.


18 posted on 08/08/2018 11:32:10 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: laplata

True but I meant to say was going to a school with that...


19 posted on 08/08/2018 1:13:51 PM PDT by shotgun ( .)
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To: shotgun

I understand. Thanks.


20 posted on 08/08/2018 3:19:53 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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