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This ancient bone belonged to a child of two extinct human species [Denisovan, Neandertal]
Science mag ^
| August 22, 2018
| Gretchen Vogel
Posted on 08/23/2018 3:42:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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This bone fragment harbors the most direct evidence yet of ancient interspecies mating. [Thomas Higham, University Of Oxford]
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08/23/2018 3:42:12 AM PDT
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SunkenCiv
To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
I've got Neandertal and Denisovan ancestors, btw. In before some moron adds keywords indicating hatred of science.
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08/23/2018 3:42:35 AM PDT
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SunkenCiv
(www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
To: SunkenCiv
If they can interbreed, then they are not separate species.
Separate species have different genetic codes, so it is impossible for them to breed.
Unless you are using the much less stringent idea of inability to interbreed due to chronological or physical barriers, i.e. time and space. (s)
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08/23/2018 3:50:17 AM PDT
by
wbarmy
(I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
To: SunkenCiv
>>An analysis of the woman’s genome, reported in this week’s issue of Nature, indicates her mother was Neanderthal and her father was Denisovan, the mysterious group of ancient humans discovered in the same Siberian cave in 2011. It is the most direct evidence yet that various ancient humans mated with each other and had offspring.
“science” magazine assumes her father was Denisovan. Maybe the breeding partner was but maybe her mother’s lifepartner was a transwoman. < /s >
To: SunkenCiv
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08/23/2018 3:56:25 AM PDT
by
MUDDOG
To: SunkenCiv
By definition, if they had fertile offspring, they were one species. In some cases, this indicates that populations that were once thought of separate species are one (Polar Bears and Grizzly bears, for instance.)
In this case, Neanderthals were already regarded as Homo Sapiens, as many humans have significant amount of Neanderthal in them (no joke) meaning that offspring of H Sapiens Sapiens and H Sapiens Neanderthalis were fertile.
I’m not sure what the news is here: “A 2013 comparison with the genome of another Neanderthal from the Denisova cave revealed local interbreeding with local Neanderthal DNA representing 17% of the Denisovan genome, and evidence of interbreeding with an as yet unidentified ancient human lineage.” [Wikipedia citing Pennisis (2003) in Science]
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08/23/2018 4:03:23 AM PDT
by
dangus
To: wbarmy
They certainly wouldn’t be considered separate species if alive today.
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posted on
08/23/2018 4:05:23 AM PDT
by
eclecticEel
("The petty man forsakes what lies within his power and longs for what lies with Heaven." - Xunzi)
To: SunkenCiv
“The woman may have been just a teenager ...”
Did they just assume her gender? Wow, just wow. I can’t even. It’s 2018!
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08/23/2018 4:07:34 AM PDT
by
cdcdawg
To: SunkenCiv
If they successfully mated with fertile offspring, they were the same species
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posted on
08/23/2018 4:13:32 AM PDT
by
Triple
(Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
To: wbarmy
Wolves, dogs, and coyotes can interbreed but each is considered a separate species.
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08/23/2018 4:23:42 AM PDT
by
Governor Dinwiddie
("Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we are put in this world to rise above.")
To: SunkenCiv
The woman may have been just a teenager when she died more than 50,000 years ago, too young to have left much of a mark on her world. That's a bit of a strange comment!
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posted on
08/23/2018 4:24:08 AM PDT
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Cowboy Bob
("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
To: SunkenCiv
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posted on
08/23/2018 4:24:36 AM PDT
by
outofsalt
(If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
To: wbarmy
If they can interbreed, then they are not separate species....Indeed!
'Face
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08/23/2018 4:26:13 AM PDT
by
Monkey Face
("I" before "e" ecept after "c" has been disproved by science.)
To: SunkenCiv
If they interbred and had fertile offspring, then they can’t be different species.
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08/23/2018 4:26:38 AM PDT
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mewzilla
(Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
To: SunkenCiv
Thanks, SC! Always interesting reads from you!
‘Face
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posted on
08/23/2018 4:27:40 AM PDT
by
Monkey Face
("I" before "e" ecept after "c" has been disproved by science.)
To: wbarmy
If they can interbreed and produce fertile offspring , then they are not separate species. Horses and donkeys are different species, but thry can still breed to make mules.
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08/23/2018 4:34:53 AM PDT
by
KarlInOhio
(Leave the job, leave the clearance. It should be the same rule for the Swamp as for everyone else.)
To: SunkenCiv
Now, how do they know it was a female?? Maybe she identified as a boy. Oh wait she had XX so it will be a female...
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08/23/2018 4:43:56 AM PDT
by
ConservaTeen
(Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but The religion of Pedophilia...)
To: SunkenCiv
Experts can tell, from a fragment of a bone, the SEX of the person. There are two: Male and Female. There is no stupid foolishness like a spectrum of 50,000 genders or other crap.
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posted on
08/23/2018 4:50:07 AM PDT
by
I want the USA back
(Media deliberately and intentionally chooses to lie, with full awareness and knowledge.)
To: SunkenCiv
So there really was a middle earth.
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posted on
08/23/2018 4:50:20 AM PDT
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
To: KarlInOhio
Mules are sterile, as are hinneys.
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08/23/2018 4:51:43 AM PDT
by
mindburglar
(I like spelling it Lazers. It looks cooler.)
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