Posted on 08/24/2018 4:10:24 PM PDT by Ben Mugged
OK I have a question for our legal eagles. If Trump paying off women using his own money is not illegal, then no crime has been committed. How then can Paul Manafort plead guilty to something that was not illegal?
You must not listen to Rush. He has been explaining this for two years.
I think you’re talking about Cohen.
Manafort was found guilty of 2005 tax shenanigans that had nothing to do with Trump. (And I thought the IRS had no recourse after 7 years! I count 13 years!)
Maybe refine your question?
Manafort isn’t being prosecuted for anything related to the women being paid off.....That’s the other guy - Cohen - the poor excuse for an attorney guy!
If the IRS can establish that a taxpayer is willfully or intentionally not filing taxes or is filing fraudulent return(s), then there isn’t a statute of limitations for that.
You are thinking about Cohen. He is saying he is going to plead guilty to a crime because he has an idiot for an attorney - one Lanny Davis.
Or Mueller has something else on him. Or he is out to get Trump.
You can, and would, plead guilty to killing the Pope with a feather if you are scared to death of spending the rest of your life in prison with Bubba........................
Ok
This would seem to fall under the same category that ‘not guilty’ is not the same as ‘innocent’.
The attorneys have created a legalese ‘crime’ that both sides agree to. It is more a contractual determination than a criminal one.
Sort of the same as CJ Roberts rewriting a portion of the Obamacare law to make it legal as a tax.
That said, I am also in a quandary as to how he can be charged with and plead guilty to a non-crime crime. It sounds like something out of a Medieval inquisition.
Who ACCEPTED the Guilty plea? Was Mueller’s gang of thugs the ‘Judge and the Jury?’
Southern district of New York where the DA hates Trump. Also Trump cannot pardon for a state crime.
Definitely out to get Trump. Cohen may not have preferred to do this but this is probably how he reduced his sentence from one that would have been essentially for the rest of his life to a few years. The prosecutors wanted something that the media and Dems could scream about implicating Trump. It is so disgusting. It is most likely not even a crime but it will never be tried in a court of law, only in the “court” of public opinion.
The Southern District of New York is the Office of one of the United States Attorneys. It has nothing to do with the Government of the State of New York. They are part of the U.S. Department of Justice.
When are people going to start fighting back? Like Dershowitz and others have said, why on earth would anyone plead guilty to something that’s not a crime?
For example, even if the hush payments were legal as a matter of campaign finance, how did Trump account for them on his tax returns and in his business records and communications? Was the money paid from Trump's personal or from his business accounts? And are there any juicy details? Are there any new legal issues raised by the material in the National Enquirer's secret files? What witnesses are there who can be menaced or charged in order to get the testimony needed to nail Trump?
Mueller and his team, with Rod Rosenstein's blessing, have gone far beyond traditional prosecutorial norms. We are now watching Soviet-style justice in action, based on the principle that all one needs to do is point out the man and the state will find the crimes it desires to find.
But it was committed by the porn star by extorting money from Trump. Extortion by threat of blackmail is a statutory crime! Paying money to the blackmailer never is. Tucker just made this point a few minutes ago on his TV show.
I’m assume no you actually mean Michael Cohen. Manafort has pled to nothing
Cohen’s lawyer, a Clinton hack, convinced him to do so
Thank you for this correction.
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