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An engineering firm wants to tow icebergs thousands of miles from Antarctica(trunc)
Business Insider / MSN ^ | 9/8/2018 | Jeremy Berke

Posted on 09/08/2018 2:57:42 PM PDT by sodpoodle

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To: MrEdd

Israel would help them with it if they were to ax.

Sadly, what you say would appear to be true.


41 posted on 09/08/2018 5:40:41 PM PDT by OKSooner
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To: sodpoodle

Why not ask the world leaders in desalinization?

Israel.


42 posted on 09/08/2018 5:40:55 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
This concept puts me in mind of “Rocks, and Ice - and Men.” Which is a chapter of “The Americans - the National Experience” by Daniel Boorstin. It seems that after the Revolution, an enterprising New England sea captain heard about how valuable ice would be in Jamaica (which was wealthy with sugar cane). So he tried hauling ice from New England to Jamaica, and altho the initial experiment wasn’t profitable for lack of infrastructure and market familiarity, soon it became a major shipping market.

Thing was, it was impractical to harvest iceberg ice; if you tried it you stood a wonderful chance of sinking your ship. So they were ultimately making money shipping ice pretty much worldwide. The reason they were able to harvest so much ice was that the Little Ice age - which was in full force during the Revolution - didn’t peter out for some decades. So every winter the lakes in NE would freeze hard and deep - and horse-drawn saws were used to cut up the ice into rectangular blocks which could be efficiently stored in purpose-built ice warehouses, and stowed on a sailing ship.


43 posted on 09/08/2018 5:43:25 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Journalism promotes itself - and promotes big government - by speaking ill of society.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy; Chode; snooter55; Squantos; Delta 21

20,200,000,000 Gallons
90 Gallons @ Person @ Day (Estimated is 80-100@Day so I picked the middle)
1,000,000 People*90. Gallons = 90,000,000 Gallons
10,000,000 People*90. Gallons = 900,000,000 Gallons
20,000,000,000/90,000,000=222.222222222222222 Days
20,000,000,000/900,000,000=22.222222222222222 Days

And those numbers don’t include any Camels.

However, goathumpingterrorscum only bathe a few times a month so it might be a wash...

PS- Y’All check My math please.


44 posted on 09/08/2018 5:52:03 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: elbook
THINK OF THE PENGUINS !!!!

They can ride Coach well the Polar Bears ride in First Class


45 posted on 09/08/2018 6:03:39 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

I agree, still one of the best comedies made.


46 posted on 09/08/2018 6:33:18 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: sodpoodle

Seems to me, if the Dubai-ans were not all Ishmaelites
but rather Israelites .... they would not be having the
problem. Really do feel sorry for the most wealthy nation
on Earth. I really pity the fools, because they do not yet
know how to turn Oil into water .... a real crying shame.
This problem is not on my top one hundred things to
spend time worrying about . Why don’t they just move
to Hawaii ....


47 posted on 09/08/2018 6:34:18 PM PDT by huckleberry55
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To: sodpoodle

Freeper? This idea has been tossed around for more than a few decades, would that make freepers guilty also? : )


48 posted on 09/08/2018 7:57:58 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: mabarker1

it’s a get rich scam for those doing the towing...

better to build desalination plants


49 posted on 09/08/2018 8:18:38 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: Chode

Most definitely do Desal.

But then again they got all that oil money to piss away...

Maybe We should send over Bolt Boy®


50 posted on 09/08/2018 9:09:56 PM PDT by mabarker1 (congress- the opposite of PROGRESS!!!)
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To: mabarker1

heh heh heh heh


51 posted on 09/08/2018 9:23:45 PM PDT by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: sodpoodle

“What do you do if you’re a fast-growing city in the desert with lots of thirsty people and little freshwater reserves?”

As rich a country could easily afford
desalination plants.


52 posted on 09/08/2018 9:49:43 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: sodpoodle

It is merely yet another reason to impeach President Trump!


53 posted on 09/08/2018 10:18:38 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
First you cover the iceberg with an insulating cover, like a tarp, that reduces the melt rate.

Is this cover for only the part above water? Seems like the vast majority of the melting would be in the submerged portion, as the iceberg is towed through warm seas.

Why not build a new class of ultra-large tanker ship? Mine fresh water from arctic ice shelves or bergs in situ and transport it anywhere in gigantic tankers. Since their only cargo is water they can be single-hull. They could have a number of isolated internal tanks, with rinsing systems built in. For the sake of structural stability you could keep it loaded at all times, with seawater on deadhead trips and then fresh water on cargo runs.

The means of propulsion would be whatever is most cost-effective, in terms of turnaround rate and cost per mile. This kind of ship would never enter a harbor or pass through locks so the form factor could be whatever works engineering-wise for a truly vast scale. At both ends of the trips it would connect to deepwater offshore terminal facilities like some present-day supertankers do.

Obviously this scheme would require building facilities in the arctic to mine and melt ice, running pipelines offshore to terminals, and at the destination(s) building storage capacity sufficient to contain several ship-loads of water.

54 posted on 09/08/2018 11:48:02 PM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
said, "During World War II we were going to build unsinkable aircraft carriers out of a mix of ice and wood shavings called Pykrete"

From wikipedia:
"Habakkuk II was closest to the COHQ model and would have been a very large, slow, self-propelled vessel made of pykrete with steel reinforcement. The size would have been a length of 1200 meters and a width of 180 meters"

For a comparison the Lexington-class aircraft carrier was 270 meters long 33 meter beam.

55 posted on 09/09/2018 12:06:41 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Captain Peter Blood

Life imitating art.


56 posted on 09/09/2018 5:40:25 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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To: JustaTech

The best I remember from articles written about it was to use only naturally calved icebergs that were already moving in the right direction, and to write off the melt water. Some icebergs meander around for months or even years before finally breaking up, depending on size and shape.

The timetable is mostly to get them moving North, out of Antarctic waters before winter sets in and the seas there become so rough as to be almost unnavigable.

But again, it was a long time ago I read about it, but nobody ever got around to doing it, so who knows if it could actually work?


57 posted on 09/09/2018 6:13:09 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberals have become moralistic, dogmatic, sententious, self-righteous, pinch-faced prudes.)
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