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Nancy Pelosi Describes Supernatural Encounter with Pro-Life Feminists
Cybercast News Service ^ | October 3, 2018 | 11:53 AM EDT | Emily Ward

Posted on 10/03/2018 9:11:00 AM PDT by Olog-hai

House of Representatives Minority Leader Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) told the Texas Tribune that she felt famous feminists “crowding” her in her chair during her first meeting with President George W. Bush in the White House after becoming part of the Democratic leadership in the House of Representatives. […]

Three of these women — (Susan B.) Anthony, (Elizabeth Cady) Stanton and (Alice) Paul — were also pro-life, in contrast to Pelosi’s pro-abortion views.

In her interview, Pelosi suggested that a woman’s “right” to have an abortion was non-negotiable. “One place you can’t find common ground, I can just tell you this, is on the issue of a woman’s right to choose. That is the thing that is an absolute,” Pelosi stated.

According to Feminists for Life, a nonprofit, nonpartisan grassroots organization which opposes abortion, Paul held a very different point of view. When feminists began to link the Equal Rights Act (ERA) with abortion, Paul “opposed” this trend, saying, “Abortion is the ultimate exploitation of women.” […]

Anthony and Stanton also opposed abortion. The Revolution, the paper that Anthony and Stanton published together, “editorialized against abortion, terming it ‘child murder’ and ‘infanticide’ while compassionately addressing its root causes in women’s oppression and advocating family planning,” Feminists for Life wrote.

In addition, Anthony made an anti-abortion comment in a speech in 1875. According to Feminists for Life, in the speech, “abortion is listed with infanticide and other murders among the negative consequences of the ‘evils’ perpetrated by men.” …

(Excerpt) Read more at cnsnews.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Religion; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: abortion; feminists; pelosi; prolife
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To: dynoman; Ann Archy; Buckeye McFrog
Not an advocate of abortion, perhaps, but certainly of government-managed sterilization. Particularly of what she perceived to be "unfit" groups.
Birth Control propaganda is thus the entering wedge for the Eugenic educator. In answering the needs of these thousands upon thousands of submerged mothers, it is possible to use this interest as the foundation for education in prophylaxis, sexual hygiene, and infant welfare. The potential mother is to be shown that maternity need not be slavery but the most effective avenue toward self-development and self-realization. Upon this basis only may we improve the quality of the race.

As an advocate of Birth Control, I wish to take advantage of the present opportunity to point out that the unbalance between the birth rate of the "unfit" and the "fit", admittedly the greatest present menace to civilization, can never be rectified by the inauguration of a cradle competition between these two classes. In this matter, the example of the inferior classes, the fertility of the feeble-minded, the mentally defective, the poverty-stricken classes, should not be held up for emulation to the mentally and physically fit though less fertile parents of the educated and well-to-do classes. On the contrary, the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective.

Birth Control is not advanced as a panacea by which past and present evils of dysgenic breeding can be magically eliminated. Possibly drastic and Spartan methods may be forced upon society if it continues complacently to encourage the chance and chaotic breeding that has resulted from our stupidly cruel sentimentalism.
Margaret Sanger, "The Eugenic Value of Birth Control Propaganda"

It should be the duty of government not only to supply the facilities which will enable these unfortunates to be sterilized, but to protect them afterwards. There should be provision for a pension of subsidy for those couples whose procreation would be dangerous to the community. If they are denied the normal family, not only for their own benefit but for that of society and above all of their children, society could well afford to see that they are well protected. If anyone thinks that is a bribe to encourage sterilization of the merely poor, he mistakes human nature.

However, the sterilization program should not be confined to the physically or mentally inadequate. The program has wider implications and a broader application.


Margaret Sanger, "STERILIZATION - (A Modern Medical Program for Health and Human Welfare)"
21 posted on 10/03/2018 10:14:01 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (Marxism: Trendy theory, wrong species)
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To: dynoman

She founded PP so you might want to get over ot

Another point Very inconvenient I know

But one cannot be for birth control and at the same time against abortion

It defies logic

Additionally, Sanger was for abortion under some circumstances. That is not vehemently against abortion. It is pro


22 posted on 10/03/2018 10:18:12 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Olog-hai

Citing Feminists For Life is not a source. Give us a book or magazine or newspaper quotation. Otherwise it’s just a bunch of women claiming something that dead people said


23 posted on 10/03/2018 10:20:07 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

The quotes are not made up. Alice Paul really did say that “(a)bortion is the ultimate exploitation of women”. With all due respect, it’s absurd to claim that this is a case of “a bunch of women claiming something that dead people said”, especially given the context.


24 posted on 10/03/2018 10:40:04 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: stanne

Sanger also is the source of the notion of women controlling their own bodies (as she put it, each woman ought to be “the absolute mistress of her own body”), which although it does not necessarily mean at the expense of a baby in the womb, has certainly been construed over and over again to mean exactly that.


25 posted on 10/03/2018 10:43:56 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Then please give a proper citation


26 posted on 10/03/2018 10:49:42 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Olog-hai

She proves the point. Can’t be pro birth control and against abortion

Birth control, as you can see by sanger’s view, for instance, takes procreation out of sex. That is a pro abortion position. Abortion is birth control. It’s why a pro birth control fanatic founded PP. planned parenthood is birth control.


27 posted on 10/03/2018 10:53:19 AM PDT by stanne
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To: Nifster

A web search can facilitate that; I already checked them myself, so if you are going to claim they are made up, then you make sure you have that on your side before hurling accusations based on the fact that FFL are otherwise following a godless ideology.


28 posted on 10/03/2018 11:00:18 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: stanne

God can take procreation out of sex too, by making either man or woman barren. There are several examples of that in the Bible, such as Sarah (Abraham’s wife), Hannah (Samuel’s mother) and Elizabeth (John the Baptist’s mother), although in their cases God intervened and reversed the barrenness.

The problem with people like Sanger and the other feminists is their attack on the family, which is an institution specifically created by God and is actually on His plane spiritually.


29 posted on 10/03/2018 11:04:41 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Olog-hai

Give a proper citation

Even the so called sites giving her quotations don’t give proper citation


30 posted on 10/03/2018 11:12:21 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Olog-hai

“God can take procreation out of sex too...”

This is beside the point

Being open to procreation is what God creased for.

Anytime sex is not open to procreation abortion is in the equation

Along with its precursor birth control


31 posted on 10/03/2018 11:14:55 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

“Can’t be pro birth control and against abortion.”

Your assertion is both logically and factually absurd. Abortion is just one method of birth control, and certainly a drastic alternative when other methods have failed. It is quite logically possible to be in favor of birth control as a concept, but opposed to abortion as a method (consider the analogy of being in favor of the death penalty, but being opposed to certain methods as “cruel and unusual”). Moreover, since there are persons who have been quoted as supporting birth control as a concept, but rejecting abortion as a method, your statement is contrary to fact, the very definition of absurd.


32 posted on 10/03/2018 11:21:14 AM PDT by VietVet
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To: dynoman

For good white people breeding stock, probably. NOT FOR ANYONE ELSE.


33 posted on 10/03/2018 11:31:17 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: VietVet

Birth control takes being closed to procreation. It places the relationship in the zone of ‘we are in control’ abortion comes from that


34 posted on 10/03/2018 11:42:37 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

I know she is considered to be the founder of PP, but what does that have to do with her being vehemently opposed to abortion?

“But one cannot be for birth control and at the same time against abortion

It defies logic”

No it doesn’t. Are you actually against contraception?

“Sanger was for abortion under some circumstances. “

Prove it, like I did, with her own words.

https://www.redstate.com/ironchapman/2013/01/23/what-did-margaret-sanger-think-about-abortion/


35 posted on 10/03/2018 12:19:00 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: stanne

And this citation disproves your point;

“She turned women seeking abortions away from her clinics: “I do not approve of abortion.” She called it “sordid,” “abhorrent,” “terrible,” “barbaric,” a “horror.” She called abortionists “blood-sucking men with MD after their names who perform operations for the price of so-and-so.” She called the results of abortion “an outrageous slaughter,” “infanticide,” “foeticide,” and “the killing of babies.”


36 posted on 10/03/2018 12:20:32 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Robert DeLong

Thank you!

I think it’s important to be accurate. I’m not defending everything about Margaret Sanger but I will defend the fact she was opposed to abortion. Especially to pro-choice people, I love doing that. They don’t know what to say!


37 posted on 10/03/2018 12:22:48 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Mr.Coffee

Not faslse, read;

“She turned women seeking abortions away from her clinics: “I do not approve of abortion.” She called it “sordid,” “abhorrent,” “terrible,” “barbaric,” a “horror.” She called abortionists “blood-sucking men with MD after their names who perform operations for the price of so-and-so.” She called the results of abortion “an outrageous slaughter,” “infanticide,” “foeticide,” and “the killing of babies.””

https://www.redstate.com/ironchapman/2013/01/23/what-did-margaret-sanger-think-about-abortion/


38 posted on 10/03/2018 12:23:42 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: VietVet

Most accurately contraception prevents conception. Abortion prevents birth. So contraception really isn’t birth control, it’s conception control. Just like abstaining, it prevents conception and is most accurately conception control.


39 posted on 10/03/2018 12:28:03 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

Her pro birth control stance founded planned parenthood. Birth control is the genesis of abortion

Very inconvenient I realize people think they can be against abortion and pro birth control. They cannot


40 posted on 10/03/2018 1:40:41 PM PDT by stanne
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