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Despite Me Too Witch Hunts, The ‘Pence Rule’ Still Doesn’t Make Sense
The Federalist ^ | October 18, 2018 | Brad Polumbo

Posted on 10/19/2018 6:48:29 AM PDT by C19fan

It’s an unsettling time to be a man in America. Democrats recently tried to destroy the career of Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh over a sexual assault allegation that lacked any substantial evidence or corroboration.

According to Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY), Kavanaugh deserved “no presumption of innocence.” This attitude has also infected the campus tribunals that adjudicate sexual assault claims, and now run roughshod over the rights of accused college students. It culminates in cases like one recently reported by writer Robby Soave at Reason, where a University of California at Davis student spent $12,000 defending himself against allegations stemming from a clearly consensual encounter.

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KEYWORDS: metoo
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What a cuck. The Pence rule is to protect the man from false accusations. Look at what the NY Times did to McCain because he worked with a woman lobbyist. They accused him of having an affair.

While it’s Pence’s right to do as he pleases, there’s little doubt his practices have unfairly affected others. Over the years, how many young female congressional staffers or statehouse aides were denied the same mentorship as their male counterparts due to their boss’s archaic habits?

Anybody who works with Pence says he does not socialize with anyone outside the office period. He is not going out to dinner with male staffers after hours. He is keeping his work life and life outside the office separate. I heard no woman working with Pence complain he did not mentor them. All Pence does is make sure his work relationships are just that.

1 posted on 10/19/2018 6:48:29 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: C19fan

I do pretty much the same thing at work and at church. If I am meeting with a woman about work, I keep the door to my office open.

I don’t do much socializing with co-workers outside of work (I go bowling with a few, on occasion). Same for church. If I socialize with people, it is mainly in groups.

Guess I’m an archaic kind of guy.


2 posted on 10/19/2018 6:52:08 AM PDT by sauropod (Yield to sin, and experience chastening and sorrow; yield to God, and experience joy and blessing.)
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To: C19fan; Secret Agent Man

Just doing it the way Pence does it, does not guarantee that some woman won’t make false allegations. I have heard rumors, that some guys have been accused by women they didn’t know, and had never met.


3 posted on 10/19/2018 6:54:11 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: C19fan

In the current environment, even the Pence rule is insufficient protection. If accusation equals guilt, than a life-long hermit could be found guilty. The only certain defense is to never have been male. Allowances are made, of course, for those of sufficient political standing and importance.


4 posted on 10/19/2018 6:54:50 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: C19fan

It’s not an archaic habit. I can’t remember the last time I’ve had a physical (I have a male doctor) when a nurse hasn’t been present during the exam. It’s good practice.


5 posted on 10/19/2018 6:56:08 AM PDT by MissTed ( Private Tagline - Do Not Read!)
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To: C19fan

This is all part of the Obama Legacy.


6 posted on 10/19/2018 7:01:43 AM PDT by Michael.SF. (California: knowingly give someone aids: misdemeanor. Give them a straw, go to jail.)
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Allowances are made, of course, for those of sufficient political standing and importance.

Like slick Willie?

7 posted on 10/19/2018 7:02:15 AM PDT by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

When the media hypes something you just get more of it. It is the leftist dog whistle. Or command


8 posted on 10/19/2018 7:02:24 AM PDT by cnsmom
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“Pence Rule” goofy to call it that - was in use long before Pence


9 posted on 10/19/2018 7:03:04 AM PDT by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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“slick Willie?”

That name gives me the willies.


10 posted on 10/19/2018 7:03:54 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy
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To: C19fan

The Pence Rule makes a lot of sense.

At the same time, following the Pence Rule means that one should take care to compensate by cultivating and promoting work relationships with female co-workers in a safe, open environment, so that they are not at a disadvantage.

One should always strive to be fair.


11 posted on 10/19/2018 7:05:55 AM PDT by Haiku Guy (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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Brad may find that he himself should have adopted the Pence rule.


12 posted on 10/19/2018 7:16:02 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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My previous pastor did the same thing. Either the door was open or, more frequently, a female from the congregation was in the room if he was counseling a lone female.


13 posted on 10/19/2018 7:16:36 AM PDT by mykroar (Congratulations President Trump)
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They’re just ticked because it’s going to be a tough challenge to manufacture some allegations on Pence.


14 posted on 10/19/2018 7:16:53 AM PDT by robel
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It doesn’t make sense to the reporter because said reporter will never understand anything about respecting your spouse.

I have this same rule. I don’t do it out of fear of false accusations ... I do it because I love and respect my wife. I don’t want anyone else to get the wrong idea about me and/or my relationship with my wife if they were to see me out with another woman, so I make sure that it never happens.

Leave it to the left to turn this into some sort of slight against women.


15 posted on 10/19/2018 7:22:30 AM PDT by al_c (https://conventionofstates.com)
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Aw heck; let’s just rename the dem party to the Anti-American Party.


16 posted on 10/19/2018 7:29:54 AM PDT by Boomer (Better Dead Than Dem)
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To: sauropod

Me too.

I’ve made it a point to keep work and home separate. I now work from home so that’s kind of hard but.

I’ve also generally always followed the Pence rule. On two occasions I’ve had to travel with women. My wife knew it on both occasions.

Both were going to another office for meetings. I made it a point to remain quite distant, meet in the lobby etc. In the current climate, I won’t do that again.


17 posted on 10/19/2018 7:39:35 AM PDT by cyclotic ( Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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>>>some guys have been accused by women they didn’t know, and had never met<<<

You mean like Judge Kavanaugh and his “accusers”?


18 posted on 10/19/2018 7:42:24 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: C19fan

The Pence Rule is biblical. If you want to argue with or not take advice from The Lord then take your chances.


19 posted on 10/19/2018 7:46:37 AM PDT by frogjerk (We are conservatives. Not libertarians, not "fiscal conservatives", not moderates)
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In the Christian tradition that kind of rule is primarily to prevent a man from being tempted.


20 posted on 10/19/2018 7:48:00 AM PDT by reasonisfaith ("...because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved." (2 Thessalonians))
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