Article 1, Section 1

Oct 31, 2018 | MosesKnows

[MosesKnows]

What do the Words Mean?

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People, the media, and Congress are discussing Section 1 of the 14th Amendment. Thank you President Trump for bringing up previous political Supreme Court decisions.

Listening to discussions regarding the 14th Amendment revealed that some people do not understand the founder’s purpose for constituting a nation.

To that end I ask three general questions about Article 1, Section 1. All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Question 1 - What does the word all mean?

Question 2 – What do the words, legislative Powers mean?

Question 3 – What is the difference between :

All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

And

All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Which is a way of asking what do the words herein granted mean?

[MosesKnows]

Are there any questions about the questions?

[bigbob]

As you surely know, it means what the Supreme Court decides it means.

[SERKIT]

Penumbra.

[antidemoncrat]

So I wonder where Congress was when Obama said he had a pen and a phone and created DACA and the Clean Water Act that essentially gave the government control over every piece of land that has water on it.

[garyb]

Seems to me that “herein granted” means the legislative powers that are described in the constitution and nothing else.

If it isn’t described, then the Congress and Senate can not legislate it... thus why a constitutional amendment had to be added to eliminate alcoholic beverages, the congress could not ban it. States could, but not Congress.

Worked for a while, until they discovered the good & plenty clause, and the interstate commerce clause and stretched them to infinity and beyond.

[Timocrat]

Auras and Emanations.

[Dick Bachert]

THE MEANING OF THE KEY PHRASE IN THE 14th AMENDMENT
President Trump is SPOT-ON. He CAN halt BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP with an Executive Order. It WILL NOT require amending the Constitution!
PLEASE SHARE this information. We’d better halt the ignorance out there BEFORE the left DESTROYS AMERICA!
The INTENT of the drafters and the MEANING of those key words “...and subject to the jurisdiction thereof...” is crystal clear!
From the debate notes surrounding the enactment of the 14th Amendment at this site:https://www.numbersusa.com/content/learn/ethics-population-and-immigration/fourteenth-amendment-debate.html

“The jurisdiction requirement was added to the original draft of the Fourteenth Amendment by the Senate after a lengthy and acrimonious debate. In fact, Senator Jacob Merritt Howard of Michigan proposed the addition of the phrase specifically because he wanted to make clear that the simple accident of birth in the United States was not sufficient to justify citizenship. Sen. Howard noted that the jurisdiction requirement is “simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already.” Sen. Howard said that “this will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”

[MosesKnows]

it means what the Supreme Court decides it means

Which Supreme Court?

Do you think this Supreme Court can't have an opposite ruling from a previous Supreme Court decision? For the record, yes it can.

Previous Supreme Court decisions along with Hillary Clinton’s record of poor judgment are part of the reason Donald Trump became president.

[MosesKnows]

“this will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.”

The grammar of that quotation will become the focus of the discussion.

[Political Junkie Too]

Seems to me that “herein granted” means the legislative powers that are described in the constitution and nothing else.

There is something else.

"Herein granted" is a thought meant to be extended by the implied [by We the People... who ordained and established this Constitution].

We would then be expected to believe that We the People, in order to "secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity," meant to grant transient visitors to the United States the power to create citizens on their own.

The people of any nation have the right to choose who can join their nation. If they do not have the right to control their own citizenry, then they are at risk of invasion from outsiders.

There are two ways to join the nation: be the Posterity of its citizens, or become naturalized by laws passed by the representatives of the citizenry in Congress.

People who are not citizens of this country who birth children in this country take away the right of the citizens of this country to control who may become it's citizens. It is a de facto invasion from within by foreigners to take over the country without the consent of its native citizens.

-PJ

[Uri’el-2012]

[lakecumberlandvet]

Just what part of this clearly stated explanation do objectors not understand? Section 1 of the 14th Amendment has been abused for way too long.