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Roger Daltrey’s New Autobiography Explains How The Punk Became the Godfather
PJ Media ^ | 7 Nov 2018 | Ed Driscoll

Posted on 11/14/2018 6:29:49 PM PST by Rummyfan

Roger Daltrey’s new autobiography, Thanks a Lot Mr. Kibblewhite (we’ll explain the title in a moment), is a fun read, but if you’re as diehard a fan of The Who as I am, you can’t help but notice it contains a few missed opportunities. Daltrey is the lead singer for one of the most influential rock bands of the 1960s through the early 1980s, yet fails to comment on some of his group’s most important moments.

But he does discuss some of the many squabbles that involved him, his band mates, and his managers. As Dave Marsh wrote in Before I Get Old, his excellent 1983 history of the band, completed immediately after their “first” farewell tour:

If the music world [of the 1960s] could be compared to a neighborhood, then the Who were the one family in every block who simply cannot keep their squabbles private, who make a mess that dangles out of the windows and into the yard and who unashamedly tangle with one another publicly in ways that mortify the neighbors. The Beatles might have argued among themselves as much as the Who, but they were discreet. The Stones were scruffier by far, but their very essence was never losing their cool. The Who battled it out right in public.

Daltrey punctuated a few of those arguments with his fists – most notoriously, an October 1973 argument with The Who’s songwriter, guitarist, and resident genius Pete Townshend, while shooting a promotional film clip during a rehearsal for the British leg of the world tour to promote their then-new album Quadrophenia:

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To: Rummyfan

Saw them live at the Cotton Bowl 1982 on one of their “farewell” tours.

They rocked the stadium. Best concert I’ve ever seen, and I’ve seen many.


81 posted on 11/15/2018 4:59:14 AM PST by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: FreedomPoster; dfwgator
I consider Live at Leeds the seminal punk album.

I think there is a lot of truth in that, though I've heard others point to Blue Cheer or the Sonics as other punk godfathers. I've also heard people say that LAL is the first heavy metal album.

One writer said that had The Who made subsequent studio albums with the power and volume like that on Leeds, they'd have had more financial success, akin to Zeppelin. Instead, they made Who's Next (or, more properly, tried to make Lifehouse and produced Who's Next from the wreckage) which was definitely NOT like Leeds.

I concur in part. Who's Next gave us arguably two of The Who's most popular tunes (Baba and WGFA) and (I believe) it is their best-selling album. But if we'd never heard The Song is Over, Love Ain't for Keeping, and Getting in Tune I don't think we'd have missed much. (Personally, I can't stand Behind Blue Eyes and to make me an even bigger minority, on some level I prefer The Who By Numbers to Who's Next.)

I also suspect that had The Who continued in the Leeds manner, we'd have never gotten Quadrophenia which is my Desert Island Disk. Thus, I'm ok with Leeds launching a genre but The Who going in a different direction.

82 posted on 11/15/2018 5:21:44 AM PST by DoodleBob
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To: DAC21; FreedomPoster
John essentially is playing lead Guitar on the Bass simply amazing stuff.

It has been said that Moonie and John were The Who's lead guitar. I agree, with no offense to Pete as he is easily the best rhythm guitarist ever.

83 posted on 11/15/2018 5:25:22 AM PST by DoodleBob
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To: drjimmy

Nice username for this thread!


84 posted on 11/15/2018 5:34:21 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: wardaddy; LS
Late 60s Vanilla Fudge

Vinnie Martell is still playing. He's a born again Christian but he does not recoil from his past. I saw him play an absolutely bitchin' version of Hear My Train a Commin' at a Church. The man is still awesome.

I'd also encourage you to check out Rockin' The Wall from our own LS. I got a lot out of it.

85 posted on 11/15/2018 5:53:46 AM PST by DoodleBob
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To: DAC21

But on Leeds there was a screw-up on Magic Bus, where they had to put in a section where it sounds like it’s being played backwards.


86 posted on 11/15/2018 7:14:22 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DoodleBob
I concur in part. Who's Next gave us arguably two of The Who's most popular tunes (Baba and WGFA) and (I believe) it is their best-selling album. But if we'd never heard The Song is Over, Love Ain't for Keeping, and Getting in Tune I don't think we'd have missed much. (Personally, I can't stand Behind Blue Eyes and to make me an even bigger minority, on some level I prefer The Who By Numbers to Who's Next.)

IMHO one of the best songs from "Lifehouse" that didn't make it onto "Who's Next" is "I Don't Even Know Myself", just a great song. And the Isle of Wight version is fantastic.

87 posted on 11/15/2018 7:17:13 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: DAC21
“Boring loud group who went about smashing their own instruments. Not fit to even tune a Beatle’s guitar”

So did Hendrix, your point being?

That wasn't my post. (Though I agree with it.)

88 posted on 11/15/2018 7:29:35 AM PST by KevinB (If I'm ever arrested, I'm switching parties.)
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To: gibsonguy
You are right about Entwhistle great bass player, him and Chris Squire the bass player for Yes were terrific and almost unknown.

I've seen Yes many times over many versions of keyboardists, but Chris Squire and Steve Howe were fantastic artists.

89 posted on 11/15/2018 7:35:03 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: gibsonguy
Starship Trooper is my favorite.
90 posted on 11/15/2018 7:35:57 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: be-baw
I didn’t care for it.

C'mon man! Lyrics like these:

i went back to my mother
I said I'm crazy Ma help me
She said I know how it feels son
'Cause it runs in the family

Fantastic!

91 posted on 11/15/2018 7:38:57 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: DoodleBob

I saw Robert Plant in concert two years ago. I think he’s in his seventies now but he still put on a damn good show. Good mix of old and new.


92 posted on 11/15/2018 7:42:41 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: dfwgator

And don’t forget Live at Leeds. Yeah live albums usually don’t count, but especially once we got the extended CD version, or even better the more recent super extended version with all of Tommy, that is a “just damn” live album.


93 posted on 11/15/2018 7:46:34 AM PST by discostu (Every gun makes its own tune.)
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To: atc23
I saw them in 75 at Anaheim Stadium - with Little Feat and Chaka Khan...

Now that is a helluva show!

94 posted on 11/15/2018 7:46:53 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel.)
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To: Rummyfan

And the ticket didn’t cost you a house payment.


95 posted on 11/15/2018 7:47:53 AM PST by gathersnomoss (Grace and Dignity Will Win The Day)
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To: atc23
Live Albums : 1.) Live at Leeds 2.) Allman Brothers Live at Fillmore East 3.) Johnny Winter And - LIVE I feel sorry for people - young people- nowadays

I recently discovered Lou Reed's "Rock 'n' Roll Animal" which I think belongs up there. Hunter and Wagner were the best 1-2 punch in rock and roll history. Even if you're not a Velvet Underground/Lou Reed fan, it's still a great listen.

96 posted on 11/15/2018 7:51:26 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Rummyfan
Plant opened for The Who one of the times I saw them, if you can believe that. His voice was in great form and I must say, he has done some interesting stuff the past 10 years.

I sometimes wonder if Robert got his soul back on the condition that he never reunite, but that's a WHOLE separate thread....

97 posted on 11/15/2018 8:40:35 AM PST by DoodleBob
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To: dfwgator
Indeed...about 20 years ago when The Who started reissuing Leeds, someone got a hold of the 8-track master. They dumped it to a CD without any effects, warts and all, and put out a boot called "Live at Leeds Complete". On YouTube you can find the tracks and, as you note, hear the edits, including a mild train wreck that was the TRUE ending of Magic Bus. Other notable edits include the removal of more jamming in Young Man Blues, several extra measures and an extended guitar-driven ending in My Generation, and a vocal miscue on Heaven and Hell. I prefer the dry and true mix of Complete to the reissues.
98 posted on 11/15/2018 8:53:49 AM PST by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

One of the edits was to take out the “Spoonful” section of “Shakin’ All Over.” The story I heard was that the record company didn’t want to have to pay royalties to Willie Dixon, who wrote the song.


99 posted on 11/15/2018 9:40:22 AM PST by drjimmy
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To: dfwgator

I got the amazing Lifehouse Chronicles box set that Pete put out in 2000. Only listened to the orchestral works and radio play once, but the other three discs are pure gold. For those who always get the name of Baba O’Riley wrong, there is an actual song called Teenage Wasteland. It may not be everyone’s cup o’ tea, but the Who Are You (Gateway Remix) is astounding.


100 posted on 11/15/2018 9:47:43 AM PST by drjimmy
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