[JParris]

Maybe the pay offs are late this month.......

[thinden]

smells like it to me.

[SpaceBar]

It admittedly does have all the hallmarks of a frame-up.

[dgbrown]

My guess is the elite don’t like the new crown prince. He has made a lot of changes that probably weakened their influence. Just a guess.

[abb]

IMO, its about oil. If the Deep State can foment ill will between Trump and Saudi Arabia, the hope is they would curtail oil production (or an embargo), cause an oil price spike, and precipitate a worldwide recession.

Presto, Trump’s main accomplishment - the booming economy - would go away.

[T-Bird45]

You could jump in Doc Brown’s DeLorean and set the time circuits for February 1898 to check out a parallel situation involving an “incident” and US media reaction. Or just read a reliable history book...remember Ecclesiastes: “There is nothing new under the sun.” Also - “History doesn’t repeat itself but does rhyme.”

[Gen.Blather]

The United States and Saudi Arabia are economically intertwined. Damaging the relationship would harm the United States. Harming the United States hurts Trump’s chances of being successful. As Bill Mau her said, “It may sound awful, but I want a serious recession as that’s the only way to get rid of Trump.”

[wastoute]

The fact that you are asking the question indicates you are breaking the conditioning.

[Zhang Fei]

[Saudis have always run a brutal dictatorship. We needed the oil. They owned the Bushes. We looked the other way. Obama bowed before them literally.]

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Saudi Arabia isn’t particularly brutal. Executions with a sword are bloody, but in a practical sense, no different from hangings. About 150 executions are carried out per year. On a per capita basis (0.46 per 100K), that is higher than the US, which had 23 in 2017 (.007 per 100K). But you have to weigh that against the fact that the murder rate in Saudi Arabia is 1.5 per 100,000 vs 5.3 for the US. Another way of putting this is that our low death penalty rate comes at a cost of 10,000 additional murders per year vs if we had Saudi Arabia’s murder rates. If we executed people at Saudi Arabia’s rates, we’d have 1472 people on the gurney a year. But our murder rate would probably drop to 4800. A life for a life, and pretty soon, all the murderers are killed.

[a fool in paradise]

CNN covered up torture abuse and murder under Saddam Hussein to keep their Baghdad bureau.

#MeToo?

How about Hussein’s rape rooms???

[hattend]

Distraction from Deep State Shenanigans

[familyop]

Because the sponsors of the big media companies want the Trump Administration to suffer a terrible failure in foreign relations. They’ll even do it at the cost of the people of the United States in a war.

Those sponsors want more than anything else to control (enslave) the people of the planet (globalism), so they want their trade regime to continue, along with pulling hordes of people in from radically different cultures to the United States. That’s also why they want to violate our Second Amendment rights.

Our Second Amendment rights, along with being the last line of defense against an attempt at imposing severe domestic tyranny, are the last line of defense against foreign invasion and occupation. The U.S.A. is the place where guerrilla warfare against a foreign occupier would be most effective (American ingenuity). I know what I’m talking about here but won’t go into personal details now.

So who would benefit from the U.S.A. being invaded and occupied by a main foreign trading partner that is also bent on conquering the world? The answer should be obvious.

[Zhang Fei]

The goal of every US administration since the discovery of oil there in the Middle East is to prevent any single power from unifying the whole oil-producing region under its rule and taking oil prices to the moon. Accounting for fairly minimal transportation costs (2 to 3 cents per gallon from the Middle East to the US), oil has a single price. We import 10m barrels a day. Even if we imported none, US oil prices would be set globally, because oil is a fairly generic commodity. Middle Eastern oil price spikes mean pain at the gasoline pump stateside. We “tolerate” Saudi Arabia for the same reason we “tolerate” other governments worldwide, friendly or even hostile, that are not the US of A - we’re not interested in annexing and colonizing the world, and at the present moment, we lack the necessary ruthlessness to be successful at that game.

[familyop]

I heard some details from European radio a few hours ago about the leaks from the Agency. The Agency does not have proof—that is, there’s no “smoking gun.” There’s only circumstantial evidence, which makes the occurrence seem even more strange.

Who knows? It’s President Trump’s Agency now. Maybe we’ll find out during the months to come.

[rawcatslyentist]

What I do know is their "care about a dead slammie" campaign aint workin.

Who cares about another dead mudslime?

[Vermont Lt]

Because they are a theocratic dictatorship that has us over a barrel (no pun intended) when it comes to ruining our currency.

Aside from that, they are great guys.

[Impy]

I wouldn’t *necessarily* chalk it up to a grand conspiracy.

Saudis had guy who was a US resident murdered in an Embassy and then lied about it in pathetically unbelievable fashion.

Whether you care about the dead guy or not it’s newsworthy and the PRIMARY goal of the media not screwing us, that’s #2, # 1 is ratings, money. This is an easily sensationalized story and global conflict is always good for ratings.

[Doogle]

...because the Saudis can out spend Soros being DC is for sale....

[bagster]

Pre-Trump Saudi Arabia was controlled and part of what some call the world-wide deep state (I call it the derp state), the "global cabal", the globalists, or whatever name you choose to call it.

It's really just the enemy. The enemy that President Trump (and his loyal team) are fighting a shadow war against as we speak. And not just for control of America, but all across the globe.

Last December, the Donald made a deal with MbS, who then took the reins of the Saudi Government and purged the "derp state" faction from Saudi and became the Trump faction of America's true ally. The former SA government had been the true ally of the faction that was represented by the Clintons and Obamas (and McCain and others).

The Donald made a huge weapons deal with the new Prince.

The Brennan faction of the derp CIA are the ones spinning this Kashoggi thing to cause a rift between Trump and SA, to skuttle the weapons deal, and to bring down MbS and return SA to the derp state column.

When's the last time you ever saw the CIA quoted as a source in the Washington Post? Isn't that strange?

Some people believe that much of the media, including the WaPo, is a CIA conduit.

There is a new strategic dynamic in the middle east. On one side Iran and the derps (including derp USA/EU/Brit), on the other USA, Saudi, Israel. Russia weighs in on our side, believe it or not.

So the Brennan/derp faction of the CIA types are seeking to turn the Kashoggi incident into the wedge and use it to pressure President Trump into cutting ties with MbS.

Make no mistake. Saudi was never our friend until just recently. Now they are. And by "our friend" I mean real Americans. The real Americans that Donald Trump represents. All of us.

Let's not let the derps have their way in this.

This is an important piece in the big game.

The good thing is, the Donald slow-walked the SA thing until after the elections and it was taken out of the news cycle. The derps are trying to bring it back into the headlines with this WaPo/CIA "leak" and they will try to apply pressure once again to the Donald.

Look for maybe some fake sanctions or window dressing finger wagging, agreed upon between MbS and the Donald.

p.s. I have this on the best authority. Ssshhhh.(He who must not be named).

#TrumpKnows

[rrrod]

Excellent point. I have no love for the Saudis but they are currently assisting us in various ways.