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THANKSGIVING’S FIRST RIFLE: THE MAYFLOWER WHEEL-LOCK CARBINE
guns.com ^ | Nov. 22, 2012 | Kristin Alberts

Posted on 11/22/2018 9:45:19 AM PST by PROCON

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To: yarddog

Did liberals take away their guns? That’s supposed to end the carnage.


41 posted on 11/22/2018 1:52:35 PM PST by gundog (Hail to the Chief, bitches.)
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To: onedoug

Ping


42 posted on 11/22/2018 2:34:35 PM PST by stylecouncilor (Dreg of Society)
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To: PROCON

Looks like an assault rifle to me.
Only someone with bad intentions would want to own a 50 caliber rifle.


43 posted on 11/22/2018 2:39:01 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: elcid1970

Would that have been what they referred to as a “fouling piece”?


44 posted on 11/22/2018 2:50:49 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird

Fowling... given you name, don’t get too close to one.


45 posted on 11/22/2018 2:51:57 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Yea, sorry about the misspelling. I meant fowl.


46 posted on 11/22/2018 2:58:30 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird

A fowling piece was a long barreled smoothbore gun intended for bird hunting; it was the forerunner of the shotgun. Late in the 18th century the first double barrel fowling pieces were devised; the ancestors of the double breechloading shotgun.

The blunderbuss’ bell muzzle was intimidating & nothing else. The shot pattern when fired was the same size as the bore. Taper choking of shotguns was later invented in the 19th century.


47 posted on 11/22/2018 3:07:04 PM PST by elcid1970 (My gun safe is saying, "Room for one more, honey!")
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To: stylecouncilor

Interesting thread. Thanks.


48 posted on 11/22/2018 5:28:17 PM PST by onedoug
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To: crz
I.E at Crecy, they figured the longbowmen fired in excess of 90,000 arrows a minute at the French.

Those must've been water-cooled longbowmen. /s

49 posted on 11/22/2018 5:37:23 PM PST by Cvengr ( Adversity in life & death is inevitable; Stress is optional through faith in Christ.)
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To: Cvengr

LOL! Can you imagine though? Geez. A lot of pin cushions left out on there.

I wonder what the hell that sounded like..all the arrows going through the air.

BTW. They shot the horses and when the knights were on the ground, the swordsmen went to work.


50 posted on 11/22/2018 6:22:03 PM PST by crz
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To: dp0622

They arrived in November and likely did not bring adequate food supplies with them for the winter.


51 posted on 11/22/2018 8:36:37 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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In these hard and difficult beginnings they found some discontents and murmurings arise amongst some, and mutinous speeches and carriages in other; but they were soon quelled and overcome by the wisdom, patience, and just and equal carriage of things by the Governor and better part, which clave faithfully together in the main. But that which was most sad and lamentable was that in two or three months’ time half of their company died, especially in January and February, being the depth of winter, and wanting [lacking] houses and other comforts; being infected with the scurvy and other diseases, which this long voyage and their inaccomodate condition had brought upon them, so as there died sometimes two or three of a day, in the aforesaid time, that of one hundred and odd persons, scarce fifty remained.


52 posted on 11/22/2018 8:54:33 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: smokingfrog; PROCON

... and then someone modified it so it was ~16 gauge rifled bbl shotgun! Lol


53 posted on 11/22/2018 10:18:21 PM PST by Oil Object Insp
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To: PROCON

True about the wheel-lock, although there were other kinds of firearms, too.

Tenuously related but already in the thread, I see some of the recirculating Internet canards about Plymouth Colony—propaganda written by jealous descendants of much more recent U.S. arrivals. It would do many of you well to read for yourselves instead of trusting the myths we’ve seen in propaganda essays (claims that our English ancestors were commies, etc.).

The founding families of our American culture were truly great, and they did prevail in establishing our culture. Otherwise, we’d be speaking Spanish or Italian instead of English, and we’d be as far towards cultural devolution as our European allies.

Pilgrims (Plymouth Colony)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilgrims_(Plymouth_Colony)


54 posted on 11/23/2018 3:35:12 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: smokingfrog

You’re right! Only 47 of the Mayflower colonists survived rough storms while crossing the sea, diseases from the ship, scurvy, winter after arrival and more. They stayed close to each other for several good reasons while working on land, one of which was defense against Indian attacks. Years before they arrived, Thomas Hunt, for one, had already made the Indians mad.

Only about 25 years later, the Maunder Minimum began (another target of crazy Internet revisionism). The settlers’ families and others who arrived soon after to join them did very well under the circumtances.


55 posted on 11/23/2018 3:54:19 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: smokingfrog

Thomas Hunt was a slaver, by the way. He kidnapped some Indians to sell them after returning to the other side of the Atlantic.


56 posted on 11/23/2018 4:01:01 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Fido969
The first pilgrims were 1492

You flunked history. Columbus discovered the new world in 1492; the pilgrims landed in 1620 or thereabouts. You were only off by 128 years

57 posted on 11/23/2018 1:45:35 PM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

And I did post a correction.


58 posted on 11/23/2018 1:46:20 PM PST by Fido969 (In!)
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