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China, the NSA, Google, and the War on Freedom
PJMedia ^ | 24 Nov, 2018 | Roger L Simon

Posted on 11/25/2018 7:24:37 PM PST by MtnClimber

The Chinese are making doubly sure public displays of displeasure with their totalitarian regime such as occurred in Tiananmen Square in 1989 will never be repeated. They are instituting a technological surveillance program so pervasive that when completed -- quite soon, it seems -- it will enforce conformity throughout their giant country on a scale that would stupefy Orwell and Huxley.

China’s plan to judge each of its 1.3 billion people based on their social behavior is moving a step closer to reality, with Beijing set to adopt a lifelong points program by 2021 that assigns personalized ratings for each resident.

The capital city will pool data from several departments to reward and punish some 22 million citizens based on their actions and reputations by the end of 2020, according to a plan posted on the Beijing municipal government’s website on Monday. Those with better so-called social credit will get “green channel” benefits while those who violate laws will find life more difficult.

The Beijing project will improve blacklist systems so that those deemed untrustworthy will be “unable to move even a single step,” according to the government’s plan.

Bloomberg has more to say about this incipient "brave new world."

The final version of China’s national social credit system remains uncertain. But as rules forcing social networks and internet providers to remove anonymity get increasingly enforced and facial recognition systems become more popular with policing bodies, authorities are likely to find everyone from internet dissenters to train-fare skippers easier to catch -- and punish -- than ever before.

Bad news for Winston Smith. Or is it Winston Chang? Thank God, it's China!

Or is it? Perhaps the Chinese are only being public, and therefore somewhat more honest and transparent, about their plans and the world in which we all already live. After all, when it comes to technological surveillance, they are merely playing catch-up to our NSA, which has been monitoring us all for decades with only sporadic protest.

Does the NSA have their own form of a rating system? We don't know, but they surely have some way -- various algorithms, one assumes -- for deciding who deserves more attention.

Meanwhile, Google -- lord on high of the internet -- works with the NSA through the PRISM program and with the Chinese on a new China-only search engine that will be subject to Communist Party regulation, an equal opportunity silicon behemoth. Google's experience with NSA makes this outreach to the Chinese almost seamless. When you think about it, the similarity of approach and method is blood-curdling. It wouldn't be surprising if important components of the new surveillance technology for this latest Chinese initiative to control the behavior of their entire population were "borrowed" in part from Google.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: china; communism; google; internet; spying; surveillance

1 posted on 11/25/2018 7:24:37 PM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

Doing this before disarming the citizens seems a suicide tactic.


2 posted on 11/25/2018 7:26:02 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

And going offline would also make you a public enemy. You are commanded to celebrate Hillary and Marxism or die.


3 posted on 11/25/2018 7:39:42 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

This starts off OK, then dissolves into idiocy.

Google gives the ‘results’ that make it the most money. Google gives the results that please the consumers it’s adverisers want.

Google caters to the most ignorant and manipulable - because that makes them the most money.


4 posted on 11/25/2018 7:45:05 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith

And Google can turn over those who have the most links to conservative sites to the left in government. Then the government could report SWAT reportable offenses to get rid of these freedom troublemakers. It has happened before, but not on a national orchestrated manner.


5 posted on 11/25/2018 7:50:29 PM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

Google works for money.
Conservatives aren’t manipulable consumers- not profitable, the advertisers son’t want them.
That’s ehat matters- money.


6 posted on 11/25/2018 7:57:26 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: MtnClimber

google feeds search data to nsa, et. al.

facebook is a honeypot for deep state thugs.

Despite President Trump’s efforts, government is corrupt front to back, left to right, and top to bottom.


7 posted on 11/25/2018 7:59:04 PM PST by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: MtnClimber

China is certainly in the news today. My Goodness!


8 posted on 11/26/2018 3:30:50 AM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: 867V309

Rhetorical question, shall we depend on the future election of one man/woman to stand athwart, as best they can, the tyranny that awaits our nation with the election of the next rat?

I say that approach, of reliance on elections alone to secure the remains of liberty, is fatally short-sighted.


9 posted on 11/26/2018 1:15:41 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: mrsmith

Yeah, I’m not so sure about that. If they only cared about money, I don’t think they’d just throw conservatives under the bus and sell the technology to someone who most likely would “pay them back” by putting a bullet in their head (which is what the Communist ideology adheres to).

No, this is definitely very political in nature.

As far as the NSA bit, I’ll agree that what it’s doing right now is wrong, but the point behind the NSA was to stop Communism, an actual confirmed enemy that should NOT be allowed to exist. Even George Washington approved of similar tactics to take out democratic societies sprung up by the French Revolutionaries, so unless you want to claim Washington’s no different from Mao Zedong, I think you might want to lay off that comparison.


10 posted on 12/03/2018 12:16:52 AM PST by otness_e
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To: otness_e

The Google execs who decide this will be long gone before China puts a bullet in any American’’s head.
But they’ll be there for this quarter’s bonus checks!

Conservatives are not profitable targets for the marketeers who pay for Google.
Why shouldn’t Google profit from selling it’s advertiser-paid-for identifying algorithm to China to use for repression? Fron Google’s persperctive?


11 posted on 12/03/2018 9:43:08 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith

The French aristocrats who aided the French Revolutionaries thought that exact same thing when they backed them, especially the Duke of Orleans, King Louis XVI’s brother whom he sold out to them, yet guess what? They turned on them early (almost immediately after Louis XVI’s death in fact), so don’t think that China won’t end up doing the same to them in the near future. Even Saul Alinsky articulated that they are to dispose of their allies soon after getting their help with that whole “sell them the rope by sunday” in a reference to hanging themselves from losing money.

And how the heck are they not profitable? Conservatives are about 40% of the Country’s population (80% if we count undecideds), which is a heck of a lot more than the liberals in either case (being 20% especially if we don’t count the undecideds). If I were a marketer at Google, and I knew Conservatives made 40% of the population while Liberals only made about 20%, guess what, I’d market for the conservatives since there are more of them than liberals and thus there’s much more money to be made there.


12 posted on 12/04/2018 5:13:58 AM PST by otness_e
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