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THE HISTORICAL PROFESSION IS COMMITTING SLOW-MOTION SUICIDE
War on the Rocks ^ | December 10, 2018 | HAL BRANDS AND FRANCIS J. GAVIN

Posted on 12/14/2018 12:35:39 AM PST by gattaca

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I think this is basically the nut of the problem. People look at the course titles in the History Department, and it’s all either interest group angles on why Western Civilization is BAD, or abstract Frankfurt School navel gazing that is of no interest to anyone who’s not insane.


21 posted on 12/14/2018 4:00:20 AM PST by babble-on
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To: a fool in paradise

Too bad.
Except for the actual dates—what is taught today is exclusively a pack of lies. These lies are mostly Marxist, and racist against ANYTHING ‘white’.
No wonder they are losing their market.
Too bad—again.
There is a TON of really good history being written these days—but ya have to find and get the stuff on your own.


22 posted on 12/14/2018 4:27:39 AM PST by Flintlock (The ballot box STOLEN, our soapbox taken away--the BULLET BOX is left to us.)
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To: gattaca

the last two generations or more have been told over and over again that everything and everyone prior to about 1990 was nothing but evil racists. I’m guessing that most “students” don’t feel that there is anything worthwhile to be learned from evil white racists, so they prefer to just chant their hatred of everything and everyone who is older than themselves.


23 posted on 12/14/2018 4:30:38 AM PST by euram
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To: Flintlock

Yep and so much fake history being regurgitated on youtube.

There is no attempt to understand the past, only to spin it and shame the culture.

Yet the Communists (who were fed a steady diet of Howard Zinn agitprop growing up) never do a comparison to what life was like in the Mother Russia or Castro’s Cuba or North Vietnam, or Cambodia, or Red China, or...

History is much bigger than 8 or 20 or 50 or 100 years. It is “eternal”. Tens of thousands of years...


24 posted on 12/14/2018 4:32:03 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committtee)
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To: gattaca

History is the most important subject

When a cop, judge or authority rewrites history to slap one with a criminal record and people ignore that history making and destroying in action, we/they are doomed


25 posted on 12/14/2018 4:43:22 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security in hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: gattaca

Future archeologists will dig up ghia pet and ball team jerseys to find evidence of primitive culture turning man into apes.


26 posted on 12/14/2018 4:52:07 AM PST by trotskylvalia (where nose meets the grindstone)
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To: LS; reaganaut

Ping!


27 posted on 12/14/2018 4:52:37 AM PST by Albion Wilde ("The word 'racist' is used to describe 'every Republican that's winning'" --Donald Trump)
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To: trotskylvalia

Probably some Florida ballots, too.


28 posted on 12/14/2018 5:04:19 AM PST by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: gattaca

Fifty years ago the Ivy League colleges dropped Geography as a discipline. And with it went Historial Geography, Political Geography and the classical physical-political-economic study of regions and nations. Slowly, that crucial element in the study of geography was dropped in other universities. Today most schools that provide courses in Geography are almost entirely devoted to the study of some element of physical geography. Usually something very narrow in scope.


29 posted on 12/14/2018 5:19:59 AM PST by Bookshelf
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American college students are abandoning the study of history

The natural question is why.

But first, how many colleges, universities, and students receive monetary assistance from the taxpayers?

Second question; what percentage of their funding is provided by the tax payers?

30 posted on 12/14/2018 5:37:32 AM PST by MosesKnows
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To: Bookshelf

The last 2 university graduations I attended had pages of students from Political Science and Economics. Subjects like English were represented by only a handful of students.


31 posted on 12/14/2018 5:40:19 AM PST by cnsmom
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History is generally bunched with geography and renamed humanaties.
Men rarely teach the subject nowadays.
The emphasis in the classroom changed from the conqerors to the conquered.
Students cant think critically.
And most importantly, it’s not Politically Correct.


32 posted on 12/14/2018 5:50:48 AM PST by Jakarta ex-pat
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To: babble-on

That’s exactly why I didn’t take a Masters in English lit from NYU and this was back in the 90s: the first book I had to read was not Emily Bronte poems (difficult!) but a Toni Morrison novel. I knew I’d be caught up in all kinds of boring and idiotic discussions of race that had nothing to do with fine literature. I can read Morrison on my own without needing help.

Gave up on the Masters.


33 posted on 12/14/2018 6:04:32 AM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: gattaca

To be fair, a degree in history is practically useless — unless you are looking for a profession in teaching.

I was very disappointed in my daughter — who has a degree in biomedical engineering — when she began to seriously date a boy who was pursuing a history degree. I had visions of her supporting his ass. Thankfully, he came to his senses and decided to continue on to law school.

You get what you pay for with degrees. There’s too many graduates out there with worthless pieces of paper and mountains of debt they’ll never be able to pay.


34 posted on 12/14/2018 6:22:14 AM PST by Magnatron
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To: gattaca

It’s ok, Universities have so corrupted and revised “history”, such that it was unhinged from reality.


35 posted on 12/14/2018 6:35:35 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: cnsmom

Sixty years ago all students matriculating at the U. of California, Berkeley, had to take two courses: Western Civilization, 2 semesters and 6 credit hours; History of the United States, 2 semesters and 6 credit hours. It was then thought that students would benefit as citizens of the United States and the world, and would comprehend why one attended a university in the first place. Other universities like Chicago demanded a grounding in the classics. Then, in the sixties, when cowardly chancellors allowed leftist students to determine the curriculum, there began the steady decline in academe that has lasted to this day.


36 posted on 12/14/2018 7:01:26 AM PST by Bookshelf
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I have Bachelor's and Master's degrees in history. I work as an Archivist for a Federal agency. The last time I needed a new job it took 3 years of fruitless searching because there was NOTHING that I met the qualifications for.

Simply put, a degree in history is a guarantee of being unemployed, unless you want to teach (which is not what I wanted to do). It isn't like the 1970’s where a history degree opened a ton of doors.

My youngest wanted to major in History, I advised that he minor in history and major in something more likely to land him a job post-college.

37 posted on 12/14/2018 7:13:14 AM PST by terentia
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To: gattaca

It’s being rewritten every day so who knows what version of what lies are being taught. I noticed that practice going on back in the early 90’s when we had an exchange student. Couldn’t believe the bs in his US History textbook. Then I went on to sub teach and ended up correcting the books more than teaching the content.


38 posted on 12/14/2018 7:13:16 AM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know. how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: miss marmelstein

I don’t even object to the special interest angles in the study of the liberal arts. Perfectly valid, but not at the expense of studying the other truly great works of English Literature and learning what is great about them. If you look at a college English Department’s course offerings, there’s nothing that is just a straightforward: “Chaucer is good. In this course we will study Chaucer.”


39 posted on 12/14/2018 7:40:03 AM PST by babble-on
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To: Magnatron

It’s useless to know about history and culture.


40 posted on 12/14/2018 7:45:55 AM PST by babble-on
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