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Give New York and New Jersey a break...they could go GOP at the pres level one day
Guava Cheese Puff | March 5, 2019 | Guava Cheese Puff

Posted on 03/05/2019 4:41:22 PM PST by GuavaCheesePuff

You don't give up on every state in America. One thing the Democrats do well is that they compete in EVERY state. Look at what they are doing to Virginia, Texas, North Carolina, Arizona, New Mexico, Georgia, Pennsylvania, Tennessee. Changing the demographics.

They are plenty of conservative areas in NYC (Staten Island, Bayside, Douglaston), Long Island, Rockland County, Upstate NY; plenty of conservative areas in NJ (Ocean, Morris, Monmouth) that can outvote the liberal areas and cities.

Don't move to FL, NC, GA. Fight. Fight, fight, fight, fight.

The GOP can win those states if a Democrat screws up big time.

Reagan/Bush won NY and NJ in 1984...........


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KEYWORDS: badabing; badaboom; deflection; gardenstate; headfake; newjersey; newyork; nj; prepayload; vanity

1 posted on 03/05/2019 4:41:22 PM PST by GuavaCheesePuff
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

How much more do Dems have to screw up to turn the NJ, NY, Ct blue?

Move now before it’s too late.

Resistance is futile.


2 posted on 03/05/2019 4:44:44 PM PST by DeplorablePaul
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

—as long as the Democraps are allowed to steal any close election, nothing of the sort will happen-—


3 posted on 03/05/2019 4:47:33 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Yeah Reagan won California too, by 16+%, but the demographics have changed radically since then. Plus the Democrats have changed the las there that allows for vote harvesting. I hear what you are saying, but you are comparing apples to oranges.


4 posted on 03/05/2019 4:48:19 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

And if they did ‘go GOP’? How exactly would that change the trajectory this country is in?

Maybe you need to get up to speed on the UniTreason Party and the false opposition.


5 posted on 03/05/2019 4:48:45 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: Robert DeLong

las=laws


6 posted on 03/05/2019 4:49:28 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

You have a lot of indoctrinated people in those states. Winning them back requires a plan to win over a sizeable percentage of those groups. It can be done, but the GOP has never shown any innovation in that regard. Trump is an exception but he’s swimming against the current. Fact is, the GOP doesn’t compete for the disaffected minorities. They have been content to stay within their electoral safe zone.


7 posted on 03/05/2019 4:55:50 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

If you want the plan to take back some voters and some blue states: We need a grass roots movement to demand conservative representation in education at all levels, and in media. Liberals took over the campuses that way decades ago.

Beyond me why everyone bemoans liberal education and media, but no one demands changes. It’s not a hard argument to make. No one is making it.


8 posted on 03/05/2019 4:59:52 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

I don’t recal the details, but I remember some statistical analysis that indicated NJ was the most likely of the eastern Dem states to flip to the GOP in a presidential election.

New York? Not a chance!


9 posted on 03/05/2019 5:02:22 PM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

My dog might do the Macarena, too. And probably sooner. Seriously, California should be taken as the classic case. Power ebbs and the other side’s majorities grow bigger and bigger. PC becomes mandated in the schools. The elected secty of state and attorney general conspire to keep conservative measures off the ballot, give them misleading ballot titles if they do and in the off chance they pass, refuse to defend the people’s will in court. With ballot harvesting they’ve got iron control down to a science


10 posted on 03/05/2019 5:05:22 PM PST by j.havenfarm ( 2,000 posts as of 1/16/19. A FReeper since 2000; never shutting up!)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

We are way too far gone here in NJ for the forseeable future. Closest a Republican has come recently was Bush losing in 2004 by 6.68% 3 years after 9/11. Don’t see a Republican getting anywhere near that close for a good long while.


11 posted on 03/05/2019 5:18:15 PM PST by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Live in New York and looking to move! Tired of holding out and paying the taxes!


12 posted on 03/05/2019 5:20:43 PM PST by LoveMyFreedom
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To: LoveMyFreedom

I left in 1980... and it went downhill ever since.....

Democrats have run these states for fifty years

They will move and turn red states blue....

There are a lot of examples..one Colorado...I left there in 2001


13 posted on 03/05/2019 5:39:46 PM PST by Hojczyk
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
Right. I was supposed to stay in New York and pay $12,000.00 a year in real estate taxes on your say so.

I'll take freedom instead.

14 posted on 03/05/2019 6:22:03 PM PST by onona (It is often wise to allow a person a graceful path.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff
Nope,can't agree.There are states...more than a few...that are absolutely lost to every imaginable form of depravity.

I look at this country today and am very glad indeed that I'm *far* closer to the grave than to the cradle.

15 posted on 03/05/2019 7:17:00 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (Mitt Romney: Bringing Massachusetts Values To The Great State Of Utah.)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

Years ago, Dem. Jim Florio signed in NJ such a ridiculous tax bill that the Republicans were elected to big majorities in both chambers. When the Republicans got to set the agenda they did NOTHING but spend on their preferred constituencies. They squandered their big opportunity and their statewide answer was Christine Todd Whitman.

Christie was the kind of “conservative” that can get elected in New Jersey sometimes, but after years of shooting off the mouth and getting nothing of consequence done, the default Dem dominance continues unabated, picking up where they left off. The numerous Christine Todd-Whitman types gleefully undermine conservatism within the party, and are poison to party recruitment.


16 posted on 03/05/2019 8:01:31 PM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: DeplorablePaul

Indeed...like the political affiliation of the voters there matters anyway! The reason why dictatorships are dictatorships is because the incumbent gets 101% of the vote until they die! NY and NJ are no different other than they are not so obvious!


17 posted on 03/06/2019 6:44:16 AM PST by gr8eman (Since God has been banished from our classrooms, Satan has filled the void.)
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