Posted on 03/16/2019 2:06:36 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Some Godless group of people plan and execute an operation to kill muslims in New Zealand. One of the main perps then livestreams it with a rant about guns, Trump, blah, blah, blah. The group involved should be tried, convicted and hanged and then everyone told to go home, settle down and get back to work and living.The reaction to that event is what triggered me.
So many muslims have been involved in violence against non-muslims all over the world in the past 19 years, I've lost count. A huge number of people have died at their hands. The major event 911 where muslims killed over 3,000 people here BECAUSE OF RELIGION, the killer couple in California, the pair of guys who tried to shoot up the event about drawing caricatures of mohammed, the killings in Europe (Charlie killings, etc., ad nauseum), the Pakistanis killing Indians in Kashmir, and on and on and on and on. The media frequently then protects muslims, tells everyone to settle down and not get upset and then it happens again. Churches and schools in the U.S. are shot up and the media really doesn't care about showing much real sympathy to the victims or their self-protection and certainly doesn't care about the Christians killed.
The media doesn't properly censor Ilhan Omar or Rashida Tlaib (We're going to impeach the motherf--er!) for their strident comments, deliberate incitement nor others like them. They can say whatever they want. When someone points out how wrong she is and the hatred perpetrated against non-muslims by muslims, then once on the receiving end of islamic hatred are vilified. You're not going to succeed against me with those diatribes. Shut up, go back to work, and keep your mouths shut or you're going to make this stuff worse.
I used to have a more conciliatory point of view about muslims and letting them live in peace, if they didn't cause any problems and kept their mouths shut. It is obvious THEY are not willing to do that. They should not be allowed to live here and simply MUST go back where they came from (those not from here). THEY do not tolerate other religions once in power (Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Pakistan, etc.) and effect violence on those who practice other religions. THEY are the ones causing the conflict and upset. The solution is not to shoot them, I agree, but they must go back to countries that practice that religion and stay there. The reaction to this incident shows they are going to become even more aggressive (as we have seen with Omar, Tlaib and that guy with her who basically assaulted a female journalist trying to cover her protest in some office on Capitol Hill - I will NEVER forget that man and his attitude - that is what causes the conflicts we are seeing.). It is only going to lead to more violence.
They are always so concerned about backlash when one of theirs kills someone. I see absolutely no concern for backlash against non-muslims after this incident, but more of a "You deserve what is going to happen to you." attitude. The root cause of all of this is the total intolerance of islam for any non-islamic person and the acts of violence they commit against US. This demented man alluded to such. I am truly sorry this happened. If I were there and armed, I promise I would have attempted to kill the guy. However, I am NOT going to be demonized, vilified and disarmed by pro-muslim idiots in light of all of this. You're stepping on the wrong toes to try and turn this into a political backlash against conservatives. Wrong move. That fanatical freak in New Zealand does NOT represent us and we are NOT going to be made to suffer any consequence related to that mess.
I understand the feelings expressed here.
I also know some Muslims VERY intimately, they are magnificent people that I would protect at any cost to myself.
Islam DOES indeed need a reformation though.
Too many crazies claiming Islam as their reason to terrorize....they need to be shunned by the mass of Islamic believers.
Appropriate response. I know some too and have taught them in school. Told one specifically that if the violence by radicals didn't stop, we were going to see some terrible conflict here. He was told that over 10 years ago. Some people never listen to what they are told.
We can stop the anti-muslim rhetoric when Saudi Arabia, Iran and Indonesian leaders call for the anti-Christian/non-muslim rhetoric be silenced. Try that first.
Muslims commit so many atrocities against the West that it doesn’t even raise eyebrows any more. We have been conditioned to accept it as “the cost of doing business”.
For Christians, the New testament was the reformation.
I have read the Koran and other sacred texts, none come close to a true reformation like the New Testament...it is a wholly new religion.
There ARE some disturbing passages in the old testament...I’m glad I was raised to believe the New testament as the word of God.
I pray for a reformation of Islam, Islamic believer are NOT bad people...they just need a new direction based on the Koran but removing the horrific parts..There were passages in the Koran that brought tears to my eyes they were so profound...they need a reformation based upon these passages.
Spain made the mistake of giving Muslims and their allies a choice. Leave, change their belief or take their punishment. The inquisitions worked out very poorly in the long run.
In the mean time until we get strong support to make this happen. Understand there is one Islam. During the life of Muhammad or the dawah. There are two types of Muslims.
Those that believe in the dawah (follow Muhammad to the letter) and those that their parents told them what Islam is.
We need open forums for Muslims to learn what Islam really is. VERY few Muslims know their own belief. It sounds inscrutable but I can show you many examples.
BTW - the New Zealand attack was an obvious false flag. Implying Candace Owens has more extreme views then a mass murderer and that "OK" sign he made when white nationalist don't use that sign.
I could list tons of things showing this was set up and orchestrated.
I forgive you for that post.
I base my morality and trust my soul to the teachings of the New Testament.
It all boils down to treating others as you would have them treat you.
And having a belief that there is something far greater than you that exists.
Atheists are idiots, “The fool has said in his heart that there is no God”
Just started watching this:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?314071-10/what-american-quran&buy=
What Every American Needs to Know About the Qur’an
Too many crazies claiming Islam as their reason to terrorize....they need to be shunned by the mass of Islamic believers.
Wake me up if this ever occurs, I won’t be holding my breath...….
Christianity had Christ to change the belief. Muhammad told his followers he was the last prophet. There can be no other. Interpretations are based on the earliest. All interpretations after are meaningless.
Anyone telling you that Islam can change is fooling you. Islam can never change.
Islam is a political philosophy in the guise of religion. It is like communism. People that live under communist rule are not inherently evil. Many are good. It is the power structure that is evil and the fanatical adherents to the philosophy. Reformation is not possible.
The killing of 50 Muslims by some of the nuts ostensibly on our side pales in comparison to what their nuts have done to our side. (Worlds tiniest violin playing) If even a small fraction of the barbarians that believe in the Islamic “faith” felt badly about the slaughter committed in the name of their world domination “wanna be” religion I would feel bad. As is I don’t care and I lay that lack of caring squarely in their own laps.
After coffee reading.
Islam probably does need a reformation.
Let’s hope it gets reformed in a manner similar to how the British reformed the Thugee religion.
Hear, Hear!!
It cannot be reformed, only ended.
muslims are snakes.
Move to a country where the demographics are reversed and see if anyone protects you at any cost. Not gonna happen irrespective of anything they may feel for you.
The nature of the beast prevents a reformation; reformers and critics are quickly killed.
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