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Researcher Discovers Longstanding Flaw in Elementary Calculus
Mind Matters ^ | 2019-04-10

Posted on 04/11/2019 1:10:39 PM PDT by johnnyb_61820

This week, WBC fellow Jonathan Bartlett, along with co-author Asatur Zh. Khurshudyan, published a paper showing that elementary calculus contains a longstanding flaw that has been present for over a century. The paper was published in the peer-reviewed journal Dynamics of Continuous, Discrete & Impulsive Systems, Series A: Mathematical Analysis: Mathematical Analysis (DCDIS-A, for short). The journal has been published for a quarter of a century and many major universities across the United States subscribe to it.

The flaw they discovered is one of notation. Now, you may be thinking, how can notation be wrong? Well, notation can be wrong when it implies untrue things, especially when notation exists that implies the correct things.

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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: calculus; math; philosophy
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To: thesharkboy

Yep, NO flaw found here, either, and I use calculus in my job as an engineer. Who thinks dy/dx is a fraction?


21 posted on 04/11/2019 2:59:15 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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To: raybbr
Yeah because math is always logical.

Math is always logical. It's just not always rational! :p
22 posted on 04/11/2019 3:10:19 PM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: backwoods-engineer
Who thinks dy/dx is a fraction?

Agreed, I never thought of it that way, just viewed it as a notational convention. You can argue that Δy/Δx is in fact a fraction and that reducing that to the infinitesimal dy/dx doesn’t change the nature of it, but in real life nobody I know thinks of it or uses it that way.

23 posted on 04/11/2019 3:58:57 PM PDT by SFConservative
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To: grey_whiskers

“42”
Shhh! The answer to meaning of Life, the Universe, and Everything is supposed to be a secret.


24 posted on 04/11/2019 4:05:25 PM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (Sharia law, which in itself is antithetical to the United States Constitution - Judge Jeanie Pirro)
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To: grey_whiskers
Louis Farrakhan asked, 'What is so deep about this number 19?'

This question has never been fully answered.

25 posted on 04/11/2019 4:33:43 PM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Kill-googl,TWTR,FCBK,NYT,WaPo,Hlwd,CNN,NFL,BLM,CAIR,Antfa,SPLC,ESPN,NPR,NBA,ARP)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Louis Farrakhan asked, ‘What is so deep about this number 19?’


Book sales?


26 posted on 04/11/2019 5:15:42 PM PDT by buffaloguy (MSM: Wind up dolls of the DNC.)
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To: thesharkboy

I doubt it...it seems a whole lot more awkward.
I was trying to derive it by the derivative of the quotient but it doesn’t seem to work for me.


27 posted on 04/11/2019 5:54:45 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: johnnyb_61820

Between this and the college bribery scandal I’ll be able to excuse my piss poor educational performance.

I’m sure this was the part of calculus that just didn’t make sense to me therefor rendering the rest of calculus nonsensical. Never made it to Deferential Equations. You can’t learn 300 pages of calculus in a night, well at least I couldn’t, kept trying though.


28 posted on 04/11/2019 8:25:34 PM PDT by dgbrown
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To: johnnyb_61820

As long as the don’t fiddle around with the Einstein notation.


29 posted on 04/11/2019 8:43:22 PM PDT by spokeshave (recovering Spokeshave from another computer.)
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To: johnnyb_61820
RATS!!

And all this time, (since 1963), I thought I just couldn't understand calculus.

I think it was the professor's fault! He was teaching me a flawed calculus!

No wonder I couldn't get it.

30 posted on 04/11/2019 8:54:20 PM PDT by Trot (really good word processor)
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To: scrabblehack

So, to start with, do differentials rather than derivatives (you can probably do it with derivatives, but more steps). So, for instance, d(x^2) = 2x dx.

Now, the quotient rule is d(u/v) = (v du - u dv) / v^2. Therefore,

d(dy/dx) = (dx d(dy) - dy d(dx)) / dx^2

Now, the derivative is the differential divided by dx, so that puts another dx on the bottom

(d(dy/dx))/dx = (dx d(dy) - dy d(dx)) / dx^3

Now, just distribute the numerator and simplify:

(d(dy/dx))/dx = d(dy)/dx^2 - (dy/dx) (d(dx)/dx^2)

d(dy) = d^2y, so

(d(dy/dx))/dx = d^2y/dx^2 - (dy/dx) (d^2x/dx^2)

That’s the new formula.


31 posted on 04/12/2019 8:18:15 PM PDT by johnnyb_61820
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To: dgbrown

Actually, the problem with differential equations is mostly that it is poorly taught. There’s actually not a whole lot to know. There’s a couple of basic forms, and just trying to reduce everything to those. Old-school diff-eq books were tiny.


32 posted on 04/12/2019 8:20:49 PM PDT by johnnyb_61820
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