Posted on 04/17/2019 9:48:44 AM PDT by Red Badger
A new study suggests your consciousness carries on after your heart stops beating.
WE know we are dead when we die because our brains keep working to make us aware of what's happening around us, haunting new research suggests.
Top medical experts have forever been at loggerheads over what happens when humans die, with anecdotal evidence of bright lights and flashes reported by people who have 'come back' being the cause of much debate.
However a new study suggests your consciousness carries on functioning after your heart stops beating and your body movements fail.
This means you are essentially 'trapped' inside your dead body with your brain still working, if only for a short time.
Survivors of cardiac arrest were aware of what was going on around them while they were 'dead' before being 'brought back to life', the study revealed.
More surprising still, there is evidence to suggest the deceased may even hear themselves being pronounced dead by doctors.
Dr Sam Parnia is studying consciousness after death and examining cardiac arrest cases in Europe and the US.
He says people in the first phase of death may still experience some form of consciousness.
The expert ventured that people who have survived cardiac arrest later accurately described what was happening around them after their hearts stopped beating.
He said: "They'll describe watching doctors and nurses working, they'll describe having awareness of full conversations, of visual things that were going on, that would otherwise not be known to them."
Explaining when a patient is officially declared dead, he said: "It's all based on the moment when the heart stops.
"Technically speaking, that's how you get the time of death."
His study is examining what happens to the brain after a person goes into cardiac arrest - and whether consciousness continues after death and for how long - to improve the quality of resuscitation and prevent brain injuries while restarting the heart.
Unlike the plot in Flatliners, however, when a person is resuscitated they don't return with a "magical enhancement" of their memories, said Dr Parnia.
Heads kept moving after being decapitated. I have to believe that as long as there is some O2 in the brain, the mental functions would continue.
Hopefully, in those cases, the shock is so great that the conscious brain is so overwhelmed you do not feel or “realize” anything.
“death is the unnatural separation of the two”
No, death is more of a graduation. There is so much beyond it.
Nothing can kill the soul. The physical body can be totally destroyed with not one cell left intact, and the soul is still unharmed.
However, the soul is held together by love and lack of Love can shackle it for a long, long time.
The human soul has an anatomy & physiology similar to the physical body it manifests. It is the source of life in the physical body. Without it, the zygote would not form and the body is dead when it leaves.
Religions, while mostly correct, are merely theories and philosophies of the anatomy & physiology of the human soul and how it interacts with its environment.
The screaming usually had to do with whatever cancer was eating them alive.
Pneumonia—which is what got most everyone else (infections spread to the lungs) cause a lack of Oxygen. In essence, you drown. Lack of O2 is a nice way to go. It causes your brain to just shut down.
Thus, your screaming and smiling while you die.
We all have to experience what comes after that.
“Well, we are both. we are designed to be a soul in a body.”
This physical body is merely another stage of the womb necessarily for the soul to be contained in an area where it can experience the lower levels of consciousness. We are seeds of consciousness, just as Jesus explained in Matthew 13 when the disciples asked jesus to further explain the parable of the tares in the wheat. (We are the good seeds planted here in the field (earth).)
My guess is that calling it an NDE while under is a nice term for it. It beats calling it “malpractice.”
A cardiologist friend of mine interviewed over 2,000 patients who had to be revived after cardiac surgery and recorded their stories.
He did this in a scientific manner and the results were published in the Lancet medical journal.
It isn't black electrical tape they use. So, if you come up enough to have a flickering of consciousness, you will see light from the operating lights above you, hear voices and see shadowy forms.
It's like laying on a dock with your eyes closed. You can see where the sun is and if anyone comes walking by, you can see their shadow.
During Steve Jobs’ last seconds he opened his eyes and said “oh, wow” and died. I’ve always wondered what he saw or sensed in that last moment.
Patient: "I was just wondering if it was you that talked about the souls of aborted babies being trapped in their mothers ? I know its a horrible subject but I need to find somebody to talk to about this. Thanks"
Me:"Yes, it was me. I will help in any way I can."
Patient: Thankyou ♥
Patient: Its very strange talking about this but in brief when I was 18 I had an abortion. I went on to have my daughter , about 4 years later and then when I was pregnant again or maybe after Id had my second child my daughter told me she had a brother who was outside and he was all alone.She was crying and very upset.I asked her old he was and she said ten which is how old the baby I aborted would have been . Obviously Id not told her .Um does this make any sense to you ?
I've often wondered if the spirit or soul of this baby had entered my daughter because of the way she has behaved towards me."
No kidding...
Its not like any one of us are going to stop it.
There are times when I am falling asleep when I feel as if I am tumbling—I love it. I focus on it. I try to grasp it.
Then I hit the floor.
Talking to hospice nurses is an eye opening experience.
If you get to know the hospice nurse, they will be nice when they talk about you. They save their best stories for a few glasses of wine, and they are usually about the lack of family or “last minute” family.
It’s like laying on a dock with your eyes closed. You can see where the sun is and if anyone comes walking by, you can see their shadow.
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Except that’s not what is often described by people who died and got brought back. The visuals are in detail.
The only person I knew with an NDE in a hospital environment was my Dad’s best friend.
He was young, with a high fever. Hospitalized and unconscious, he remembered nothing about going there or what was going on. He suddenly found himself up in the upper corner of the room, looking down. He was aware of everything going—with striking detail.
Then he was back, out of it for a day or so. He recalled it all to his nurses when he was awake. They told him he was an an angel, so he must have been looking down on them.
This was in the mid 30’s. Nurses were aware of these things—even back then—but they did not try to explain them.
There are stories of people not only seeing their body from above, but seeing loved ones in different rooms or even hundreds of miles away. There was one lady who died on the table and told a story of how her doctor pointed with his elbows like a chicken. The doctor said he would motion with his hands touching the front of his gown and motioning with his elbows so he didn’t break sterility.
In my case I may have opened my eyes enough to either see through the tape the lights above me and I'm pretty certain I saw some of the medical staff. May also have opened my eyes enough that the tape pulled free. Could also be that all of this occurred post operation as I was about to be wheeled out.
Hmmm... I don't know. I noticed that hospital and hospice nurses tell stories about families they don't like - for example, families who argue with them, especially when they're arguing that a loved one still has a chance.
Bottom line, though, is to be firm but polite to the hospital staff. Just as we should be nice to the restaurant staff serving our food. Our lives could be in their hands...
Anyone interested should have a look at the scholarly study entitled “Life After Life” by Raymond Moody.
I had no memory of from just before I fainted till the time I woke up without realizing I was injured until I saw blood on the floor. It would have been a very peaceful yet sudden ending.
Yes, I recall reading about a person's head being pulled out of the basket right after being guillotined, and s doctor called out the person's name. The severed head opened it eyes and blinked several times for some 40 seconds before it appeared totally dead.
I worked at a hospital, and my wife worked at the other one in town for 15 years. Hospice workers generally work in the home or at a Skilled Nursing Facility.
That is where the good stories come from.
PS: I worked in telecom. No one, including staff, was nice to us.
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