Posted on 05/22/2019 6:27:21 AM PDT by C19fan
Actually he was a pretty good orator. He would start slow and build up to the frenzy. Usually brought the crowd along with him. My parents heard him speak, said he was hypnotic.
If Hitler looked like Emilia Clarke we might all be speaking German right now.
Hah! Well done.
Hah. You got that right. What a babe.
And a staff position to her hair stylist.
She didn’t use the impassioned gestures of Hitler as seen in some of his speeches, but his focused and straight delivery as seen in some of the scenes in Leni Reisenthal’s “Triumph of the Will.” I thought she did a good job with the speech with her body language (no puns) enforcing her desire that the entirety of Westros would be destroyed in order to be liberated.
He is not gesticulating in every scene (one of them isn't even really Hitler), but in most of them, he's pretty over the top. The one that most reminds me of Daenerys is the color (ized) one with all the columns of troops or storm troopers. I still think the idea that Emilia Clarke studied films of Hitler giving speeches is just actressy BS. However, there is no doubt the producers/director were going for a Hitler effect with the sequence.
It looks silly by today’s standards, but remember the technology of the time, which was primarily newsreels, it’s a much different medium than television.
Almost every politician of the day had that wildly gesticulating style.
Sooo... the Italians still have only newsreel today? ;)
The Liberals hailed Hitler like the Castro and Madura. The New York Times and Time Magazine made him a Great leader and did not report the human misery and death. No different than killing babies for convenience and marching. History Rymes.
[While HBOs D&D were not bound by anything recognized as acceptable military strategy or tactics they seemed to think that soldiers could not only survive but reproduce like ameobas.]
Agree with you about “Rome” as the superior HBO series. In fact when HBO first release “Game of Thrones” James Purefoy ranted that “They stole our show!”
Many moon ago we had a troubled kid in our school who would climb onto the cafeteria tables and do Hitler speeches - in German - until they hauled his crazy butt away.
Assume he is now a decision maker with the DNC.
Agree on the Dothraki. There might have been a hundred left after winterfell. If that. You only saw a few in retreat and none in battle after that initial slaughter. The Unsullied supposedly lost half at winterfell, so there could still be thousands.
“The Unsullied supposedly lost half at winterfell, so there could still be thousands.”
Recall that the Unsullied were doing a staged withdrawl into the gates of Winterfell and that the Plan was that the last battalion would hold the line to-the-death while the trenchline was fired and the gate was sealed. I seem to recall that they got steamrolled pretty badly and that they were forced to fire the trenches while a good third of the remaining fighting strength was engaged. So you might still be right but prior casualties would make it somewhat unlikely.
The ‘numbers’ of Unsullied prior to the battle were also problematic. They’d taken a major hit storming the Rock and had to force march overland to reunite with Dany’s other forces. Back of the envelope calculations... my opinion... they couldn’t have fielded more than 10,000 prior to the Sack of KL. Once inside the city a lot of them must have fallen to friendly (dragon) fire.
Final point: the Unsullied were the ultimate phalangists. Everything gets sacrificed for the sake of holding the formation. Once the formation gets broken either in defense or pursuit they are no longer supermen and they will take casualties in the ratio of other leather armored warriors. Against metal-armored Lannister forces that would be quite high.
Good debate though!
I am going to watch again. That all makes sense. I was recalling their strategy meeting after the WF battle and Grey Worm said they lost half. earlier, in other seasons I recall there were 10,000 to start with. That could be a faulty memory as that number could have referred to a different group she picked up from a different city.
I did not consider what the dragon may have burned in Kings Landing. They did not show many, if any losses in the hand to hand combat.
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