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Harper’s Weekly – August 13, 1859
Harper's Weekly archives ^ | August 13, 1859

Posted on 08/13/2019 7:43:22 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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Free Republic University, Department of History presents U.S. History, 1855-1860: Seminar and Discussion Forum
Bleeding Kansas, Dred Scott, Lincoln-Douglas, Harper’s Ferry, the election of 1860, secession – all the events leading up to the Civil War, as seen through news reports of the time and later historical accounts

First session: November 21, 2015. Last date to add: Sometime in the future.
Reading: Self-assigned. Recommendations made and welcomed.

Posting history, in reverse order

To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by reply or freepmail.

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1 posted on 08/13/2019 7:43:22 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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Our Serials – 2
The Massacre at Mountain Meadows, Utah Territory – 2-4
Editorials – 4-5
Correspondence – 5-6
The Lounger – 6-7
The Pike’s Peak Gold Mines – 8-10
A Tale of Two Cities, by Charles Dickens, Book II, Ch XVI – 11-13
The “Battle of Magenta” at Jones’s Wood – 14, 17
The White Mountains-The Ride – 15
The White Mountains-All Aboard! – 16
A Common Case – 17-19
A Good Fight, by Charles Read, Ch VII-IX – 19-22
On the Water – 22
Trumps, by George William Curtis, Ch. XLIV-XLV – 23-26
Free Italy (?) – 27
2 posted on 08/13/2019 7:44:48 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Attn: Homer_J_Simpson ....thanks for this.


3 posted on 08/13/2019 8:22:02 AM PDT by Glad2bnuts (“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson
Please add me to this class! 😊
4 posted on 08/13/2019 2:55:52 PM PDT by boxlunch (Pray for President Trump! Disband the Democrat Media Communist Complex!)
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To: boxlunch

You are added. Next update scheduled for Friday.


5 posted on 08/13/2019 4:15:07 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Please add me to the ping list.


6 posted on 08/15/2019 2:37:25 PM PDT by TalonDJ
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To: TalonDJ

You are added. Welcome aboard.


7 posted on 08/15/2019 3:01:00 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Diary of John Brown, August 16, 1859

Wrote wife and John, Jr., for instructions, etc.

SOURCE: Franklin B. Sanborn, The Life and Letters of John Brown, p. 520

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John Brown [alias Isaac Smith] to his Family, August 16, 1859

CHAMBERSBURG, PENN., Aug. 16, 1859.

DEAR WIFE AND CHILDREN, ALL, — I left all well at home yesterday but Martha, who was complaining a little. Am in hopes nothing serious is the matter. I will only now say I am getting along as well, perhaps, all things considered, as I ought to expect. We all want to hear from you; but we do not want you all to write, and you need only say all is well, or otherwise, as the case may be. When you write, enclose in a small envelope such as I now send, seal it, and write on it no other directions than I. Smith & Sons. Enclose that in a stamped envelope and direct it to John Henrie, Esq., of Chambersburg, Franklin County, Penn., who will send it to us.

Affectionately yours,

I. S.

SOURCE: Franklin B. Sanborn, The Life and Letters of John Brown, p. 531-2

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Harriett Newby to Dangerfield Newby, August 16, 1859

BRENTVILLE, August 16th, 1859.

DEAR HUSBAND:

Your kind letter came duly to hand, and it gave me much pleasure to here from you, and especely to here you are better of your rhumatism, and hope when I here from you again you may be entirely well. I want you to buy me as soon as possible, for if you do not get me some body else will. The servants are very disagreeable; they do all they can to set my mistress against me. Dear Husband you ___ not the trouble I see; the last two years has ben like a trouble dream to me. It is said Master is in want of monney. If so, I know not what time he may sell me, an then all my bright hops of the futer are blasted, for their has ben one bright hope to cheer me in all my troubles, that is to be with you, for if I thought I shoul never see you this earth would have no charms for me. Do all you can for me, witch I have no doubt you will. I want to see you so much. The children are all well. The baby can not walk yet all. It can step around everything by holding on. It is very much like Agnes. I must bring my letter to a Close as I have no newes to write. You mus write soon and say when you think you can come.

Your affectionate wife,

HARRIETT NEWBY.

SOURCE: H. W. Flournoy, Editor, Calendar of Virginia State Papers and Other Manuscripts from January 1 1836 to April 15, 1869, Volume 11, p. 311

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8 posted on 08/16/2019 5:13:51 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Diary of John Brown, August 17, 1859

Wrote Jason for box, etc.

SOURCE: Franklin B. Sanborn, The Life and Letters of John Brown, p. 520

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John Brown Jr. to John Henry Kagi, August 17, 1859

[Rochester, New York August 17, 1859.]

On my way up to our friend's1 house, I met his son Lewis, who informs me that his father left here on Tuesday, August 16, via New York and Philadelphia, to make you a visit.

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1 Frederick Douglass.

SOURCE: Franklin B. Sanborn, The Life and Letters of John Brown, p. 538

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9 posted on 08/17/2019 6:09:42 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Diary of John Brown, August 18, 1859

Wrote F. B. S[anborn] and other friends.1

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1 This was about the time that Douglass visited Brown at Chambersburg. The purpose of Brown's letter to me was to raise three hundred dollars more, since he was delayed for want of money; and I undertook to raise it. On the 4th of September I had sent him two hundred dollars, of which Dr. Howe gave fifty; on the 14th I had all but thirty-five dollars of the remaining hundred, Colonel Higginson having sent me twenty dollars. I think the balance was paid by Mr. Stearns, who on the 8th of September had written thus to Higginson: “By reading Mr. Sanborn's note to me a second time, I see that the enclosed ought to have been sent to you with his note. Please read it and enclose again to him. I hope you will be able to get the fifty dollars. We have done all we could, and fall short another fifty as yet.” The “enclosed” here was an urgent appeal from Chambersburg for money.

SOURCE: Franklin B. Sanborn, The Life and Letters of John Brown, p. 520

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Mrs. E. A. Gloucester to John Brown, August 18, 1859

BROOKLYN, Aug. 18, 1859.

ESTEEMED FRIEND, — I gladly avail myself of the opportunity afforded by our friend Mr. F. Douglass, who has just called upon us previous to his visit to you, to enclose to you for the cause in which you are such a zealous laborer a small amount, which please accept with my most ardent wishes for its and your benefit. The visit of our mutual friend Douglass has somewhat revived my rather drooping spirits in the cause; but seeing such ambition and enterprise in him, I am again encouraged. With best wishes for your welfare and prosperity, and the good of your cause, I subscribe myself

Your sincere friend,

MRS. E. A. GLOUCESTER.

SOURCE: Franklin B. Sanborn, The Life and Letters of John Brown, p. 538

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10 posted on 08/18/2019 6:43:25 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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New source.

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David W. Blight, Frederick Douglass: Prophet of Freedom

11 posted on 08/19/2019 5:04:47 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Very interesting. It makes me grateful that I have a really dull life with no earthshattering conflicts or decisions to make.


12 posted on 08/19/2019 5:14:01 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Keep your face always toward the sunshine - and shadows will fall behind you." Walt Whitman)
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This was in 1859. 20 months later, they were shooting at each other.

Now, read about this weekend in Portland, Oregon... You just might be living through history repeating itself.

13 posted on 08/19/2019 9:40:55 AM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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People fighting is nothing new. It will always happen.

I was thinking of Frederick Douglass, who believed so deeply in emancipation (of course!) and even in slaves taking violent measures, but couldn’t bring himself to participate in John Brown’s initiative because - as I interpreted this excerpt - he was sure it would accomplish little except to get the participants killed.

I wonder if he’d told himself the time would come for a great slave uprising, he’d worked toward it, here they were on the brink ... and he realized that even though this was the best possible chance, it was still doomed. It had always been doomed.


14 posted on 08/19/2019 11:25:45 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Keep your face always toward the sunshine - and shadows will fall behind you." Walt Whitman)
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A few years ago we spent a couple of days in Western Maryland, near the Potomac, to tour the Antietam battlefield. It is very interesting country. It's very near Washington, especially today with freeways. But it has a completely different feel not at all like the country around DC. The land and people are much more like Western Pennsylvania or West Virginia than the DC area.

Pikes Peak or Bust!

15 posted on 08/19/2019 12:02:10 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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I haven’t been to Sharpsburg, myself. DP and I were going to go to Emmittsburg, MD, once, but we got lost and went to Manassas, VA, instead. The battlefield was closed because of one of those budget battles, but the city museum was neat, and there were shops.


16 posted on 08/19/2019 1:33:12 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Keep your face always toward the sunshine - and shadows will fall behind you." Walt Whitman)
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Antitam is a very interesting but spread out battlefield, with different theaters of action as the day progressed. Like Gettysburg, you can hire a guide who will drive your car around the battlefield and give a personal tour, which I highly recommend.

Although it was counted as a Union victory, the battle highlighted McClellan's utter incompetence as a commander in the field. At least at one time the Battle was taught at West Point as an example of a commander breaching several of the Army's Principles of War, especially Mass and Unity of Command. Not to mention that McClellan sat on his butt for more than a day after Lee's detailed battle plan fell into his lap.

17 posted on 08/19/2019 2:02:06 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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I recently read Bruce Catton’s narrative on Antietam in “Mr. Lincoln’s Army.” Much of the book is about McClellan and it gave me the most complete picture of the man I have read, since I never read a dedicated McClellan biography. Catton sees the battle as a major turning point, as far as what kind of war it was going to be.


18 posted on 08/19/2019 2:40:49 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Bummer, my library doesn’t have it!


19 posted on 08/19/2019 2:49:23 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Keep your face always toward the sunshine - and shadows will fall behind you." Walt Whitman)
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My father and I went over Gettysburg with an Army War College guide. It would be interesting to have a personal tour, though.


20 posted on 08/19/2019 2:50:17 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Keep your face always toward the sunshine - and shadows will fall behind you." Walt Whitman)
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