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Custom build you own modern computer (new Ryzen CPU) for under 400.00 (OS not incld.)
https://pcpartpicker.com/ ^ | Thu, 08/22/19 | daniel1212

Posted on 08/22/2019 7:24:52 PM PDT by daniel1212

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To: daniel1212

Thank you. Hadn’t thought about that spare Ryzen motherboard
I have until now. I was waiting for those newer boards with the larger bios spec.
Windows 10 pro alone is not easy to install on my older non-Ryzen motherboards. I am trying the 8.1 to 10 upgrade next.

Was fun running a Ryzen chip on a Windows 7 motherboard for awhile though.


21 posted on 08/22/2019 8:47:11 PM PDT by Scram1
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To: MountainWalker
Been a long time since I was into system building. I had built a desktop that I had overclocked and water cooled with a fish tank pump and heater core from a car.

I like it! Cooled by a 12v fan from a hair dryer.

Not sure how you can manage having hundreds of tabs open at once, but I’m sure your have your reasons.

Indeed. One mainly for forums and research, such, another mainly for item research, another mainly for data retrieval, another mainly for weather etc. All easily accessible, thanks be to God.

FF-ESR+FTdeepDark.TMP.ClrflTabs

I’m not sure it’s worth the time anymore based on how powerful even preassembled midgrade desktop hardware has become but sounds like you know what you need.

I do not think you will get anything close to the specs listed for the like price. Maybe 8GB ram, and a micromobo and small case, plus usually loads of bloatware.

22 posted on 08/22/2019 8:55:25 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: TexasGator

I wouldn’t get an i3 for gaming but I’d probably go Ryzen 5 2600 which would be a good enough upgrade over my gen 3 i5. I’d bet it would be 100 bucks or close to it by the holidays. I nearly pulled the trigger on a combo at Microcenter this spring :-(...


23 posted on 08/22/2019 9:02:08 PM PDT by miliantnutcase
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To: ThunderSleeps
Excellent idea. I'd add a 2T "spinner" drive from Newegg for $38. I'd configure it to put the OS on the SSD and /home (aka user files) on the 2T drive.

Which speed, BTW, i read partly depends on how much free space is left.

That's basically the setup I run - Core i5, 8GB memory, 128G SSD for the OS (KDE Neon), /home on a WD 1T drive, Gigabyte motherboard...

I think the profile files for the browser should be on the SSD, and ram upped to 16GB. BTW, I found Firefox ESR being much faster by doing this: Speed Up Firefox by Moving Your Cache to RAM, No RAM Disk Required

24 posted on 08/22/2019 9:04:30 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212

Thanks for posting this.


25 posted on 08/22/2019 9:05:30 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Bob434
You mean Qualcomm joins Intel, Apple, Arm, AMD in confirming its CPUs suffer hack bugs , too

Then you have, AMD Immune to Crippling MDS Vulnerabilities

Perhaps unsurprisingly at this point, new security vulnerabilities have been found in Intel's CPUs dating all the way back to 2008. Known as Zombieload, RIDL, Fallout, and MDS (Intel's official naming), these holes in Intel's architecture are the latest in a string of vulnerabilities that have been revealed one after the other since the early 2018 debut of Meltdown. Meanwhile, AMD maintains that Zombieload, just like Meltdown, Foreshadow, and Spoiler before, only affects Intel processors and not any produced by AMD.

26 posted on 08/22/2019 9:07:44 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: TexasGator

> The Intel I3 outperforms and with a lower price. <

You mean without a graphic$ card?

http://www.cpu-world.com/Compare/11/AMD_Ryzen_3_2200G_vs_Intel_Core_i3_i3-7100.html

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-8100-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-3200G/3942vsm824486

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i3-9100F-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-3200G/m796379vsm824486

https://technical.city/en/cpu/Core-i3-2130-vs-Ryzen-3-3200G


27 posted on 08/22/2019 9:12:39 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Bob434

It wasn’t just Ryzen. It was every CPU with branch prediction logic, including Intel and ARM.

See https://meltdownattack.com/


28 posted on 08/22/2019 9:13:11 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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To: TexasGator
I just bought a similar configuration from Newegg for $95 with W10 operating system. Refurbished.

Good buy then! But what are the specs?

29 posted on 08/22/2019 9:14:23 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Westbrook

ah thanks- couldn’t remember-


30 posted on 08/22/2019 9:14:51 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: daniel1212

Thank you for posting this. I was looking to build a PC with my Dad to use for gaming, and I would need to do it on a budget. I recently updated to 16GB of RAM in my Laptop (HP Pavillion dv6), and it’ll run all of my daily usage extremely well, but not so much with games. I have all of my important data on an external, while program files are all that remain on the laptop itself. Actually, I have several backups of my external.

I was wondering if Linux came recommended as a good OS for someone who is used to running Windows. I’ve never used it, but heard good things.


31 posted on 08/22/2019 9:16:17 PM PDT by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: daniel1212

https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883288093?Item=N82E16883288093


32 posted on 08/22/2019 9:19:16 PM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16883288093?Item=N82E16883288093

Good buy for $85, but hardly a comparison of specs with just 4GB ram vs. 16GB DDR 3000; and (apparently) Intel Core i3 3. 3220 vs. AMD Ryzen 3200g , and a Small Form Factor case, plus other unknowns. But NewEgg does have some good buys on refurbished units. And hey, thank God we even have such choices. So far.

33 posted on 08/22/2019 9:36:31 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: daniel1212

There are many reasons to want a powerful GPU these days that have nothing to do with games or even video. Lots of programs offload heavy computations to them.


34 posted on 08/22/2019 10:08:24 PM PDT by thoughtomator (... this has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.)
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To: daniel1212

Thank you!


35 posted on 08/22/2019 10:14:40 PM PDT by dadgum (Overjoyed to be the Pariah.)
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To: daniel1212

I always build my own PCs. Always will. My next will be an Intel Generation 6 so I can still install Windows 7 on it, and it’ll probably be my last for a while.


36 posted on 08/23/2019 1:58:07 AM PDT by ducttape45 ("Righteousness exalteth a nation; but sin is a reproach to any people." Proverbs 14:34)
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To: Paal Gulli

“There’s no GPU on the list and the built-in so-called GPU on a $90 MoBo (which doubtless uses “shared” RAM) is hardly going to win many awards”

Uhh the GPU is on the CPU, not the MB. And at least on the Ryzen it is perfectly acceptable performance unless you are a serious gamer or perform video editing. Allocating a couple gb of RAM isn’t much of a hit when you are starting with 16.


37 posted on 08/23/2019 2:21:40 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: thoughtomator

“There are many reasons to want a powerful GPU these days that have nothing to do with games or even video. Lots of programs offload heavy computations to them”

And yet off lease business PC’s you find for sale rarely have dedicated GPU’s


38 posted on 08/23/2019 2:38:41 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: daniel1212

“NewEgg does have some good buys on refurbished units. And hey, thank God we even have such choices”

I bought a HP 600 G1 SFF off lease PC via NewEgg in April (iSell 3rd party, fulfillment by NewEgg). I bought it as a stopgap until I can work on a new higher end build. It was $169 after $20 rebate. It had a 2015 build date so it had came off a three year lease last Fall. Grade A condition, with a 2 year seller warranty, i5 CPU, 8gb RAM, Win 7 pro which I upgraded for free to Win 10 pro. Platinum Rated PSU which can handle a 1050ti GPU if required. I added a DVD burner (it came with DVD read only) and another 8gb RAM for $35. The new build can wait as it more than meets my needs.


39 posted on 08/23/2019 3:13:44 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: RightGeek

Probably 7 or 8 at least for me.


40 posted on 08/23/2019 4:26:43 AM PDT by wally_bert (Hola. Me llamo Inspector Carlton Lassiter. Me gusta queso.)
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