Posted on 08/22/2019 7:24:52 PM PDT by daniel1212
Yes, that looks like a good buy also. I looked it up and even now it is 160.00 at Amazon (NewEgg not in stock). The Intel Core i5-4570 itself goes for $190, and its performance is rated close to the Ryzen 3200g, though I do not like SFF (small form factors, and i am surprised you had the slots for 4 sticks of RAM), and it must be fast. Replacing the 5400RPM SATA HDD with a 500 GB SSD for $50 would provide a very noticeable improvement.
Again, i do not want or need gaming, while my own experience with every major and some minor Linux distros is that for me they were not work the learning curve needed to achieve the degree of customization i can easily obtain via Windows freeware, nor was their any needed security advantage. And the Linux Mint 19 (live) complained it had to run the graphics in software mode on this 3200g, and reporedly is unstable. I read Linux Mint 19.x is not stable with 2200G/2400G as is as you need at least kernel 4.19 or even better 4.20 and firmware version 18.50 or newer for raven ridge. There is this post on how-to
I was thinking about building a media PC and had looked at Ryzen but I ended up getting an nVidia Shield TV box for now because they go for less than $200.00. Kinda wish I'd gone ahead with the build though. I hate when it starts up and I see the Android logo, knowing it's google. Ah well, next year.
Not all all: Having tried every major and many minor (Xubuntu and Puppy were my favorites) I find improvement over what Linux offers as regards getting all hardware to work plus easy customization (like enabling 200 tweaks available in Ultimate Windows Tweaker 4 for Windows 10).
Linux Mint 19 could not even connect to the Internet with this build, failing to even find the USB wireless, and has problems with the graphics, and still seems to have problems with AMD Ryzen. Plus there are often printer issues, etc.
It is hard to even find a Linux distro that enables (not suggestions, but that works) remapping the CapsLock key to ctr+c, and Esc to ctrl+v, and then NumLock to Esc and the middle mouse key to ctrl+c as a AutoHotKey script enables (NumLock::Esc CapsLock::^c Esc::^v mbutton::^x). And which for me is essential due to my stiff arthritic fingers. And that is just one thing that is difficult to find out how to do, if it can be. Plus besides AutoHotKey there is some software that lacks equal Linux equivalent.
It is fine if it works for you, but why should I spend time trying to learn the Linux way (and its distro and desktop variables) when I am happy with Windows?
I do want to install a version of Linux on my old PC though.
I have a bunch of high school students who want to BUILD using 7400 series ICs.
Same here, my first was a 386. And I have no clue why, but I still have it around somewhere when even a Raspberry Pi is far superior.lol
My pc is now 5 years old but after adding a ssd drive it is still fast. No real reason to build a new one other then just for fun.
Gigabyte Technology Z97X-UD5H with 32gb ram from 5 years ago : )
Samsung SSD 860 EVO 1TB $139 earlier this year
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32” LG monitor 1920x1080@60Hz.
I bought it 1 and a half years ago for about $200
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One advantage of Linux is that it requires far less resources allowing for those extra resources to be utilized by applications. With linux the 3rd party “Steam” has the market wrapped up when it comes to high graphics 3D games. You can buy these and download them or play them online on their game server. High graphics games are more dependent on your graphics processor and RAM than the OS, but the less resources the OS ties up the better.
I like and use linux and have it installed dual boot over Win 7, I highly recommend you make a “live CD” linux thumbdrive to boot from and give it a check without actually installing it yet. You might be surprised. :)
Who the heck leases a PC?
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I think if I want a cheap computer, I’ll get a Raspberry pi. You can do lots of nice things with Linux and free software.
Linux is also safer from malware/viruses. At the very least, you have to sudo to install anything, alerting you to the fact that someone is trying to install something.
I resist being the pioneer when it comes at AMD chips.
Forget a Live CD. Run a VM.
Absolutely, The core root is isolated in it’s own partition and no changes from ANY source can be made without super user permission and password. There is no way to access it without you knowing. This alone is HUGE in my book and far outweighs any other small eccentricities Linux might have.
As for a VM, I would rather have the Linux as my secure primary OS and run Windows in the VM if I absolutely have to have MS for some reason. What good is Linux as a secondary OS if the MS primary is still vulnerable? If I need a quarantined OS in a VM to protect my primary I just clone my primary linux as my secondary.
But I have no reason to use MS at all now, Linux has come a long way and fills the need for just about everything MS can do.
I’m looking to get one and play. The newest model sounds incredible considering what they are.
That can fit what you want to do, but as described, that does nor provide what I wanted, which is my reason for upgrading. and I do know and appreciate the many useful things you can do with much free software. I thank God for those who provide it, esp. Firefox and OpenOffice.
One reason: People are more comfortable with Windows at first. I use Linux as a mainframe so I am more comfortable with command line but I know how to use it graphically (X-windows).
Have you tried the new Mint with the cinnamon desktop yet? Full point and click GUI that looks, feels, and functions just like Win 7. And it comes boxed with a great bundle of GUI apps including updater, software manager, Synaptic , Etc. The normal average user would almost never have a need to use the command line.
The only time I actually “needed” to use the command line was when I did the slightly more advanced work to build my own VPN server and my VM environment. It’s pretty cool, A windows user can jump right in and fly from right out of the box. They did their homework on this and made it ready for strictly GUI users coming from windows and it very works well.
I have it on my media machine. But I’m in the command prompt for 4 hours a day. I write shell scripts for cron jobs and do quite a bit in vi.
I really like Linux as an OS but my games run in Windows. Our Java development VM’s are Ubuntu.
Yeah, high graphics 3D games are still a short point with Linux but it’s getting better. There is “steam” for the high graphics 3D stuff. But I think as more would load and use Linux, the game dept would make more effort to bring that market and demand up to speed and compete against windows gaming. :)
Tell you what... After all these years of being abused by MS since DOS, I dig this Linux and gladly welcome the very few minor short comings it might have right now for the ball and chain to be removed. It is getting better by the day and if more would load it the options and advantages would explode.
Now is a good time to make the change over for the average user, Win 7 is just about done and as we all know Win 10 just sucks. Win 7 users, especially older users are going to absolutely hate 10. The Mint Cinnamon is exactly what they need about now as a first Linux experience.
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