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Posted on 08/25/2019 1:44:42 AM PDT by NorseViking
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I refuse to send my kids to the indoctrination centers called college. We are going to send them to trade school to be plumbers.
Good video. On bright side though, the ‘star’ does manage to snag a pretty hot chick in the middle of the video.
But they certainly do make a good point, which can be extended somewhat in noting that the effects seen in the video also start to happen as you introduce more and more diversity quotas.
(Me? I tried to convince my daughter to take up welding!)
“I refuse to send my kids to the indoctrination centers called college. We are going to send them to trade school to be plumbers.”
Not to put down plumbers, as I’ve never had one step foot in my house, and I just finished (hopefully) what would have been a $10,000 plumbing repair requiring HazMat (due to a sewage spill) at a friend’s house and also did a $3,000 repair of my own a few years back. Total cost for tools and parts was roughly $400 for both.
I’ve also made damn sure that my boys can do any repairs that I can do, including plumbing, electrical, AC, and automotive.
But, having said that, there are steps that we took to mitigate the corrosive effects of college, at least with our kids.
1) We would only pay for going to college as commuters. Meaning they still live at home. We were fortunate in that there were acceptable colleges in driving range where we live in Texas. If not, we would have at least considered moving.
2) If the kids did want to live on campus, sorry, no dice - they pay every penny. We wouldn’t pay any part of it, not even the the part we would have have spend on a commuter school. Obviously co-signing loans for these schools is out too. And since very few kids have the resources to afford going away to college these days, that was effectively our way of vetoing it, without having to flat-out say no.
3) We would only pay for junior college for the first 2 years, which, again, is almost always commuters. If they wanted to start at a 4-year school, even a commuter school, they would have to pay their full way. Doing so gets them out of the first 2 years of 4-year colleges where most of the indoctrination takes place (much of it due to peer pressure). By the time they are juniors, their classmates are more serious and if there are politically orientated cliques developed, they don’t include my kids.
4) Needless to say, if they wanted a degree in the ‘Humanities’, more power to them, but not on our dime.
Nothing’s perfect, but these worked for us. Obviously they didn’t go to Harvard, but they are doing just fine. Also, for public colleges in Texas, at least, if you start at a public Junior college, get decent grades, and an Associate’s Degree, you are guaranteed admission in a public 4-year college - not necessary a top-tier 4-year college, but a 4-year college for sure - that is state law here. I’m sure some, if not many, other states have the same type of laws.
you made the right choices.
the so called elite schools are no longer worth the money and time.
Some of their stems are worth wile but they are quickly getting eaten up.
the academy is about 6 to ten years behind market and cultural forces.
everyone knew there was a glut of lawyers about 10 years before the academy realized it and they were still recommending law schools to people who would never find jobs in the field.
watch what is needed and where the supplies come from
Johannesburg in 10 to 20 years?
Thanks CS, it was based on my college struggle (a little Communist lingo, for those of you in Rio Linda). One of my big problems was being easily distracted. Even though that’s much more true with guys, it was even worse for me. I had to extricate myself from dorm life, completely, to get through. Wasn’t about to let that happen with my kids!
personally from my observation devices take about 10 to 15 points off of IQ. up to one standard deviation.
very dangerous to dumb down the right side of the normal curve.
You are like a jewish mother forcing her son to be a doctor
Did you think to ask your kids what they want?
Maybe they know more than you do
Agree...with the crap out there now, plus the Internet, there is simply no way I would have graduated from college, and I’m not even sure if I would have made it through high school (back then you needed to be able to read to graduate high school).
My kids were simply out of luck on ‘technology’ when they grew up. All they got was a flip phone with a scratched out camera lens. I’m still waiting for someone to tell me why kids need smart phones, or unlimited Internet access, for that matter, but I’m not holding my breath.
Good—we need plumbers, they make a good living, and colleges are indoctrination centers.
I hope of course that they have some say in what they are sent to study, however.
“You are like a jewish mother forcing her son to be a doctor”
LOL...accurate, though it applies to a lot more than Jews now. It includes virtually all Asians.
Anyway, often we use the term ‘plumber’ here to mean a person who is in a profession that can make loads of money by NOT requiring college. Obviously Joma can answer, but I expect that answer to be among my lines - once they’re 18 they can do whatever they want, as long as they pay for it (which, of course, is true under the law too).
But, as parents, it is OUR MONEY, and we do have the right to ‘invest’ that money as we see fit. And having our kids enter a profession that actually pays well, college or not, is definitely a good investment. Having our kids, instead, be a financial drag on their parents for at least a decade after high school, as is the case for virtually all of my non-immigrant coworkers - not such a good investment (but not immigrants, they figured it out).
Yes, that seems to be more the norm than the exception now—giving credit to community college courses when transfering to an associated state college. Makes sense, but also says a lot as to the limit of validity of four-year college credits, too.
the schools require and provide computers now.
Paper until 18 is my guideline
Homeschoolers be aware
The “drag” has nothing to do with education. The drag has to do with inherent laziness.
A lazy intellectual or shiftless kid is going to be a drag even with a gradate degree or a corporate title.
While money is an issue, it should not be a weapon used to force a kid who has no clue along a path he doesn’t want to travel.
I reccomend “McDonalds as School” program. Go to work for a year at McDonalds and study the business from cleaning floors, selling up front, making fries, to ordering and managing inventory to running the place.
A McDonalds is American business in microcosm and is all facets of a large manufacturing company including sales and production in one compact location.
A year earning and learning at one of the best corporations in America can provide some solid basis for going forward.
We’re with you. DD wanted to go to a nearby Christian college with a well-known business program. She got grants, scholarships and worked two jobs and paid for most of it herself. She’s now in management.
DS1 and DS2 didn’t like school. The older one has a service tech job but wants to start his own excavating company, based on things he learned from helping Dad on the farm. The younger one is currently in tech school.
At my job I’ve often noticed how much the people with skilled trades learned from their dads and-or grandpa’s and-or uncles and-or in the military.
Since I never go to McDonald’s I don’t exactly know of what you speak...but I get your point.
You’re not too far from me on this. We’re both saying don’t do what 80% of parents do or are at least willing to do, which is to finance their Socialist ‘education’ of their kids. You’re a bit tougher than myself, but we’re still pretty close!
Maybe they know more than you do.
About human nature? Workplace dynamics? Credit? Emotions? Home care? Scams? Car care? Capitalism? Drinking? Politicians? Honest sand fair discussion?
That’s all baggage....... The kid might want to explore on his own to seek what he likes
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