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Let's go over the facts before we say anything else FREeepers

Two 17 year olds out late at night, on a school night no less.

Where were the parents?

Why were they in some one else's garage that they should not have been.

They got shot and killed now there is outrage?

Play stupid games win stupid prizes. Let that be a lesson to every other kid doing this.

1 posted on 08/29/2019 12:32:05 PM PDT by Morgana
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Two 17 year olds out late at night, on a school night no less.

Not defending them, but 9:30 isn't late for 17 year-olds. It's barely dark by then...

What they were doing in the guy's garage is another question.

2 posted on 08/29/2019 12:34:33 PM PDT by Quality_Not_Quantity (A law means nothing if it isnÂ’t followed.)
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I would guess that they didn’t carry signs saying ,”We are 17 year olds.”


3 posted on 08/29/2019 12:34:54 PM PDT by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? -Homer Simpson)
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Two 17 year olds out late at night, on a school night no less.

Remember what Joe Friday recommended? A paper route. Builds character. It did in his case.

4 posted on 08/29/2019 12:36:05 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word. Goy to the World!)
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They were good boys who were turning their lives around. They were planning to go to medical school.


5 posted on 08/29/2019 12:36:12 PM PDT by kaehurowing
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“one of the teenagers’ father’s believed they knew the shooter and had been in the garage before”

Yep, cased the place and came back for the goods.


8 posted on 08/29/2019 12:37:26 PM PDT by setter
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“Play stupid games win stupid prizes.”

Nope.

No threat to the shooter’s life. The shooter is going to jail, and I think that’s as it should be.


9 posted on 08/29/2019 12:38:01 PM PDT by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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Hopefully that’s learn their lesson.


10 posted on 08/29/2019 12:38:15 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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https://youtu.be/qGzTb7d1iX0


11 posted on 08/29/2019 12:38:31 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Be strong & prosper, be weak & die! Stay true.... ~~ Donald J. Trump)
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It would be very interesting to see what history,if any,they had with the police/courts.It seems possible that they were just two stupid kids...or that they were worthless,filthy punks.

But even with the "stupid kids" scenario the homeowner had no way of knowing that.In some states,including mine,one has the legal duty to attempt to flee such situations rather than the right to stand your ground.

But if I was ever on a jury in my state trying such a case I'd ignore the duty to flee and consider if the homeowner had good reason to be fearful.

It seems to me that this guy may very well have had good reason to be fearful...even if his state has a "duty to flee" law.

14 posted on 08/29/2019 12:39:22 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (A joke: Brennan,Comey and Lynch walk into a Barr...)
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I saw the picture of his home. He seemingly lives in a place where he doesn’t get to have windows. Small wonder he’s sensitive about crime.


20 posted on 08/29/2019 12:41:17 PM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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It remains unclear if they were trying to break into the property, or what their motive for being there was. It never ceases to amaze me how the same media that can’t hazard an educated evaluation of what these two perps were up to or figure the motive of someone yelling Alahu Akbar while stabbing multiple innocents but can positively see racism in everything President Trump says or does.


21 posted on 08/29/2019 12:41:28 PM PDT by spudville
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I'm sure not all will agree, but whoever the homeowner was, he was way out of line. From the article, from the father of one of the 17 year-olds:

Javier's father Jimmy said he should not have fired his weapon because the teens were in his garage and not his house.

'It wasn’t in your house, it was in your garage.

'That’s like 10 feet away from your house, you know so that means you’re seeing some perps out there at your garage, you know, so my first instinct is to call the police,' he said.

This father is correct. Killing someone who is in your garage (unattached from the house no less), and who isn't directly endangering your life, is not justified.

22 posted on 08/29/2019 12:41:46 PM PDT by neverevergiveup
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One of the boys was nicknamed “Toad”. He was trying to get the Gran Torino.


24 posted on 08/29/2019 12:42:48 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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This guy needs a lawyer and should keep his mouth shut, except to say, “call my lawyer”.

Almost anything he says at this point will be bad for him. He should just let his lawyer do the talking.


29 posted on 08/29/2019 12:43:42 PM PDT by Haiku Guy (If you have a right / To the service I provide / I must be your slave)
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It remains unclear if they were trying to break into the property, or what their motive for being there was.

They had already broken into his house if it was an attached garage.

31 posted on 08/29/2019 12:44:19 PM PDT by gunnut
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I remember being a 17 year-old boy. Even at that age, I assumed it was common knowledge that going onto someone's property, especially entering a building, at night uninvited would get you shot and probably killed. <shrug>
34 posted on 08/29/2019 12:45:15 PM PDT by Spruce
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It looks like abandoned property. The house is boarded up. The homeowner did not say they were threatening his safety. Seems like this is shoot first and ask questions later. As a teenager I occasionally found myself snooping around abandoned property. This is a terrible price to pay for curiosity.


36 posted on 08/29/2019 12:46:00 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (The denial of the authority of God is the central plank of the Progressive movement.)
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I think the key point is that they were”inside the garage”. That is a break-in.


42 posted on 08/29/2019 12:47:23 PM PDT by Innovative
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“Where were the parents?”

smoking pot or at the welfare office..


44 posted on 08/29/2019 12:47:38 PM PDT by max americana (Fired ONE libtard at work at every election since 2008 because I enjoy it. I hope every lib die.)
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Javier's father Jimmy said he should not have fired his weapon because the teens were in his garage and not his house...

I'm seeing a pattern...
48 posted on 08/29/2019 12:48:59 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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