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Does history influence culture?

Posted on 09/18/2019 7:27:42 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica

Just wanted to ask a simple question. Do you think history influences culture? I mean particularly American history on American culture.

If yes, why? If no why not? Is it a major influence, or only minor?


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I'll go first. Yes, I do think that American history can, does, and will influence culture. To use one example: The Founders and the founding still influence even to this day.

I think that history's influence is so great that this is what motivates progressives to engage in book-burning-like behavior in order to try to cover it up.(Taking down murals and monuments and so forth; acting like some books don't exist and manipulating algorithms to make other books become non-books; etc.)

These book-burning-like activities attempt to diminish the impact of actions taken and words spoken in American history, but even in a diminished capacity history has a major influence.

1 posted on 09/18/2019 7:27:42 AM PDT by ProgressingAmerica
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The Progressives have had good success in making our history disappear (civil war monuments, etc.). They know that communism has a better chance of success in the US if most Americans don’t remember what a free country looks like.


2 posted on 09/18/2019 7:32:42 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Of course history has an impact. If not for the American Revolution we would still be under England’s rule.


3 posted on 09/18/2019 7:35:10 AM PDT by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Culture influences history.


4 posted on 09/18/2019 7:36:18 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica
American culture

What exactly is that?

5 posted on 09/18/2019 7:36:46 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Culture influences history...........Just ask Orwell...............


6 posted on 09/18/2019 7:37:16 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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GMTA!...................


7 posted on 09/18/2019 7:37:29 AM PDT by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain......................)
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To: Altura Ct.
What exactly is that?

American Culture these days is garbage.

8 posted on 09/18/2019 7:38:07 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Altura Ct.

We have been a tough, moral, God-fearing, entrepreneurial nation lifting millions out of poverty around the globe, and struggling against tyranny of all types. That is American Culture.

George Washington and the cherry tree
John Paul Jones, “I have not yet begun to fight!”
Davey Crockett
Honest Abe Lincoln
The Pony Express
Buffalo Bill
Thomas Edison
Horatio Alger
Henry Ford
John F Kennedy, “We will go to the moon”
Martin Luther King, “I have a dream”

But today we are consumed by Progressivism and it weakens us.


9 posted on 09/18/2019 7:42:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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“American Culture these days is garbage.”

Yep. As much as I hate to agree with Bill Maher on anything he had it pegged when he said “Hollywood isn’t your sewer, America. It’s your mirror.”

L


10 posted on 09/18/2019 7:42:32 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

It used to before progressives took over education.


11 posted on 09/18/2019 7:43:50 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here Of Citizen Parents_Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Red Badger

Smiling Through the Cultural Catastrophe, Jeffrey Hart p. ix
History is to a civilization what personal memory is to an individual: an essential part of identity and a source of meaning.


12 posted on 09/18/2019 7:44:56 AM PDT by Vehmgericht
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Don’t let the left wing’s hatred of America change our history.

“The past was erased, the erasure was forgotten, the lie became the truth.” George Orwell, 1984

“Do you realize that the past, starting from yesterday, has been actually abolished?”

1984 by George Orwell
Home Literature 1984 Characters Winston Smith

“Do you realize that the past, starting from yesterday, has been actually abolished? If it survives anywhere, it’s in a few solid objects with no words attached to them, like that lump of glass there. Already we know almost literally nothing about the Revolution and the years before the Revolution.

Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book has been rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street and building has been renamed, and every date has been altered. And that process is continuing day-by-day and minute-by-minute. History has stopped.

Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right. I know, of course, that the past is falsified, but it would never be possible for me to prove it, even when I did the falsification myself. After the thing is done, no evidence ever remains. The only evidence is inside my own mind, and I don’t know with any certainty that any other human being shares my memories.

Just in that one instance, in my whole life, I did possess actual concrete evidence after the event – years after it.” (2.5.14, Winston to Julia)

https://www.shmoop.com/1984/winston-smith-quotes-2.html


13 posted on 09/18/2019 7:49:12 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The line that separates satire and Democrats and Stupidity has vanished. (thanks to jonascord)!)
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To: Altura Ct.

Go to another country. You will observe that things are different. The difference is American culture.


14 posted on 09/18/2019 7:51:41 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: ProgressingAmerica

I WOULD agree except American history is no longer taught nor is it taught correctly, ie, as it actually happened and without the smear of sjw crap and commie-Zinn lunacy all over it.


15 posted on 09/18/2019 8:12:12 AM PDT by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Now they teach kids that The Founding Fathers were a bunch of slaveholders, who only wanted independence because they didn’t want to pay their taxes.


16 posted on 09/18/2019 8:13:41 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Altura Ct.

You don’t know? The culture that proclaims liberty for all? The American dream and all itsparts
Familiar with any of that?
Ridiculous to imply there is no American culture, if you allow for any culture at all.


17 posted on 09/18/2019 8:15:58 AM PDT by Adder (Mr. Franklin: We are trying to get the Republic back!)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Are you asking about our true history or our revisionist history?


18 posted on 09/18/2019 8:43:35 AM PDT by bgill
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This may sound like time for the tinfoil hat, but I believe American culture was created by the Soviets to destroy American values, which would result in a new political class of radical leftists.

I submit, the Soviet Union was destroyed only in territory, but not communist ideology. The ideology now runs rampant in American society and culture and without the likes of Donald J. Trump, the process of going full left wing would have happened under Hillary.

I submit to you, if Hillary was elected, we would never have another presidential election. Hillary would have put two left wing justices on SCOTUS, she would have filled all the judicial slots Trump filled with radicals and with a left wing SCOTUS she would have changed laws by fiat, like Obama, but worse. Then the purging of American values and our constitution would be completed.


19 posted on 09/18/2019 8:45:39 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (When you think about what the left is doing to America, think no further than Cloward-Piven)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

It used to... Now alternative realities and lack of history influence culture. Just as it was planned.


20 posted on 09/18/2019 8:45:49 AM PDT by Openurmind
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