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What’s Wrong with Boeing?
defense one ^ | November 12, 2019 | Mark R. Jacobson

Posted on 11/13/2019 6:06:24 AM PST by daniel1212

From sloppy work to blown deadlines to deadly failures, the company has lost its way. It needs tough love — in the form of Congressional investigations....

Taken together, the problems with the 737 MAX, the 787 Dreamliner, the KC-46 Pegasus, the NASA Starliner, and the Space Launch System suggest systemic organizational and cultural failures that the company, unaided, appears incapable of solving...

The deadly failures in the 737 MAX program alone suggest major cultural and organizational problems at the company. Though the loss of almost 350 passengers in two crashes have prompted internal investigations, media scrutiny, and an admission by CEO Dennis Muilenberg to the Senate Commerce Committee that “we made mistakes,” we still don’t entirely understand why Boeing did not fully explain the implications of its new MCAS flight-control system to the FAA and forced through a rapid approval of the aircraft’s airworthiness. We do know that superiors in the company neither recognized potentially catastrophic problems nor heeded subordinates’ concerns about them...

The 737 MAX is not the only recent Boeing airliner that has encountered major problems. In 2013, battery fires led the FAA to ground the entire 787 Dreamliner fleet, the first time the agency had given such an order in almost 40 years. The Dreamliner soon returned to flight, but recent reports show that its woes may not be over. Earlier this month, a whistleblower told the BBC that Boeing ignored problems that could cause a quarter of the planes’ emergency oxygen systems to fail. The engineer said this was done in an effort to speed deliveries of the 787 amid a “culture of meeting targets and cost-cutting.”

On the military side, Boeing’s KC-46 Pegasus aerial refueling tanker is $3 billion over budget, three years behind schedule, and still has technical challenges whose repair bill has been estimated at $300 million by the Government Accountability Office. These include problems with the remote vision system needed to operate the refueling boom – the 767 variant’s raison d’etre!

Then there are the tools and other debris that Air Force maintainers began to find inside the walls, floors, and wings of delivered aircraft. The service acquisitions chief halted deliveries the following month, allowed them to restart in March, then halted them again after more debris was found.

Meanwhile, the existing fleet is currently banned from carrying cargo and passengers until faulty cargo restraints are fixed. These delays mean the KC-46 is now slated to fly its first combat missions no sooner than 2022 – eleven years after Boeing was selected over rivals to build the tanker. All this suggests a deeper problem with Boeing’s commitment to quality and a continued disregard for the potential risk to our men and women in uniform—unfathomable for a company like this....

the company recently withdrew from the competition to replace the Minuteman III, likely preventing the Air Force from using competition to reduce the cost of its next ICBM.

Boeing space systems have also been problematic...The SLS’s first launch, already three years late, may yet be delayed until 2021...

this is not a partisan issue. Sens. Tammy Duckworth, D-Illinois; Richard Blumenthal, D-Connecticut; and Ted Cruz, R-Texas; have all criticized Boeing’s leaders in the aftermath of the 737 MAX disasters. Sen. Roger Wicker, R-Mississippi, said the executives appeared to approach the recent hearings with “a disturbing level of casualness and flippancy.”


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Excerpts of a article which describes a problem that I think reflects the moral degeneration of American society overall, and is increasingly seen in both private industry and the government;

Both of which are committed to liberal political correctness (including LBTQ favoritism*), motivated by fear of that enemy within while weakening the nation against foes from without, both of whom punish those who stand for traditional Biblical values (thus engaging in a costly war against God )

*A moral wrong is not a civil right; like the sin itself, that's confusion;

calling evil good and exchanging light for darkness, is sure delusion!

History tells us where this will lead, from societies now in dust,

When a nation casts off the laws of God, and follows it's own lusts.

(From the poem Freedom not Sodom!

1 posted on 11/13/2019 6:06:24 AM PST by daniel1212
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To: daniel1212

Like any huge corporation with a near-monopoly they’ve gotten fat, lazy and sloppy.

Same with their unionized workforce.

Those two things largely killed off the steel industry here in Pittsburgh.


2 posted on 11/13/2019 6:08:32 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: daniel1212

From sloppy work to blown deadlines to deadly failures, the company has lost its way. It needs tough love — in the form of Congressional investigations....

...

Because Congress is known for its honesty and integrity.


3 posted on 11/13/2019 6:14:43 AM PST by Moonman62 (Charity comes from wealth.)
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To: daniel1212

The tough love should come in the form of competition, not congressional hearings.

That, and financial punishment for not meeting contract requirements, including safety standards.


4 posted on 11/13/2019 6:15:00 AM PST by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
I totally agree on all points. I am amazed that the CEO has not been summarily removed and facing charges - PEOPLE DIED and who knows how many more were put at risk.

If the FAA weren't in bed with Boeing, they would step in and clean house.

5 posted on 11/13/2019 6:15:07 AM PST by The Sons of Liberty (Takedown My Duly Elected President and You're Attacking The Constitution! IT WILL BE DEFENDED!)
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To: daniel1212

Who is John Galt?

The US had a good run. And the sun used to never set on the British empire.

All good things come to an end.


6 posted on 11/13/2019 6:16:07 AM PST by cuban leaf (The political war playing out in every country now: Globalists vs Nationalists)
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To: daniel1212

Their quality seems to have gone down since moving their HQ from Seattle to Chicago...


7 posted on 11/13/2019 6:17:50 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: Buckeye McFrog

When Boeing moved its HQ to Chicago, I suspected they’d lost their way.


8 posted on 11/13/2019 6:18:11 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: daniel1212

Meanwhile, Lockheed Martin is eating Boeing’s lunch.


9 posted on 11/13/2019 6:24:26 AM PST by Psalm 73 ("I will now proceed to entangle the entire area".)
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To: MV=PY
The tough love should come in the form of competition, not congressional hearings. That, and financial punishment for not meeting contract requirements, including safety standards.

Requiring federal contractors to submit to politically correct requirements has not helped.

10 posted on 11/13/2019 6:25:28 AM PST by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks


When Boeing moved its HQ to Chicago, I suspected they’d lost their way.”
*

Relocating to Chicago was a confession to the unions. Runner up was Texas and it’s a Right To Work State. Agree Chicago was an existential mistake.


11 posted on 11/13/2019 6:26:02 AM PST by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: daniel1212
in the form of Congressional investigations

Whether the company has lost its way or not, this suggestion is not going to help.

Congress is full of fakes, phonies, thieves and grifters. The collective intelligence is less than that of a box of rocks, there is less integrity than a 2-year-old alone in a candy store, and if anyone thinks they have the capacity to investigate anything, just watch the news and this website this week.

12 posted on 11/13/2019 6:26:43 AM PST by grobdriver (BUILD KATE'S WALL!)
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To: Moonman62
Because Congress is known for its honesty and integrity.

I understand, and i was just reporting, not advocating.

13 posted on 11/13/2019 6:26:43 AM PST by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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Years ago doing an onsite boeing project the company I worked for was awarded, it was amusing to see boeing engineers playing solitaire at their ‘work’ stations.


14 posted on 11/13/2019 6:27:28 AM PST by chief lee runamok (expect nothing)
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To: snoringbear

*concession*


15 posted on 11/13/2019 6:28:14 AM PST by snoringbear (,W,E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: daniel1212
IMHO the downfall of Boeing began when they moved their executive headquarters from Seattle to Chicago.

The fiasco that became the 787 Dreamliner was the first of a long line of Boeing missteps that culminated (thus far, they're not done yet) in the 737MAX groundings over a few missing lines of code.

On the military side, Boeing is years late delivering the KC-46 tanker that they claimed to be experts in building.

16 posted on 11/13/2019 6:29:03 AM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: daniel1212
When you hire foreigners to do the work, you get what you pay for. When you give Americans job security and treat them with respect you will get a better product. Throw in TQM and you will beat all competitors,
17 posted on 11/13/2019 6:29:12 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Everything I Needed to Know About Islam I Learned on 9/11)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

DING! DING! DING!...... WE HAVE A WINNAH!...................


18 posted on 11/13/2019 6:29:22 AM PST by Red Badger (Against stupidity the gods themselves contend in vain...................)
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To: daniel1212

In a nutshell...
Boeing has had, like Grumman had, a branch of the US. military in their pocket for so long, that they thought they could sell re-packaged, and refined ‘scat’ and sell it as ‘environmentally safe solid rocket fuel’, and the military would buy it with the glee of the kid under the tree on Christmas morning!!
With the outsourcing of civilian aircraft maintenance to offshore locations, the chance of ‘shade tree mechanics’ increases, with the anti-American stink plastered, as well.


19 posted on 11/13/2019 6:32:17 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: snoringbear

They made the move because the CEO’s paramour (who was also his underling) had relatives near Chicago that she wanted to be near. Soon after the move was complete, the affair was revealed and both were sent packing...and his successors were left holding the bag.


20 posted on 11/13/2019 6:35:32 AM PST by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy...and call it progress")
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