and doctors also recommended:
Posted on 12/21/2019 11:53:53 PM PST by BobL
Researchers at MD Anderson are conducting both human and animal studies of the effects of diet, including the ketogenic diet, on cancer.
The low-carbohydrate, high-fat ketogenic diet has become hugely popular over the last few years. For many people, the keto diet — including variations such as keto cycling or the less restrictive lazy keto — has become the go-to eating plan for weight loss and fighting disease.
Two years ago, I interviewed cancer specialist Dr. Patrick Hwu of MD Anderson in Houston about his research into what he calls the “fat-burning metabolism diet”, or fat-burning diet. Hwu, a tumor immunologist, has been following the ketogenic diet himself for six years, long before it was trending on social media.
As a leading cancer doctor, he has many patients asking him for the ideal diet while they go through treatment and he often suggests keto.
Hwu emphasizes that more research is needed to determine the ideal diet for cancer patients, but as he has seen in himself, the keto diet has been shown to improve biomarkers associated with heart health.
(Excerpt) Read more at today.com ...
For those who may not be following Keto closely, there is some, so far weak, evidence that going Keto will stop cancer growth, as cancer appears to rely on carbs to grow (in some indirect way).
So far no significant studies that I know of, so the pro-Keto side is keeping its powder dry and not making any claims, yet (unlike the diet/nutrition/medical community which still claims Keto is certain suicide, except, somehow, for people with epilepsy). But actual studies may be coming out soon, based on this article.
LOW CARB / KETO PING!!!
[p.s., anyone wanting to join, or leave, my Low-Carb ping list, just let me know, privately or publicly]
Ping to Cronos in re. to recent garlic discussion.
I’m on a self-imposed low carb, low fat diet for now, including much poultry and some fish. *Desperate* to get rid of the gut completely. A little dairy, butter as desired, vegetables, and some fresh fruit, though. Feels better so far.
Was eating some fresh garlic with an orange nearly every night. But after a few weeks, a slight asthma-like condition and bloating (congestion) occurred from the bottom of my guts to the top of my head each morning after consuming the garlic (about a heaping teaspoon each session).
Will try eating the garlic only once in a while and avoiding it most nights. Maybe it’s something to do with mostly northwestern European DNA. I don’t know.
“(unlike the diet/nutrition/medical community which still claims Keto is certain suicide, except, somehow, for people with epilepsy)”
No, no, no, no, no. Not letting you get away with that.
From Johns Hopkins:
“Candidacy: Ketogenic Diet as a Treatment for Epilepsy
Our clinic is recommended to adults with epilepsy who fit one or more of these criteria:
You have tried multiple medications for seizure control in the past with limited success.
You have a vagus nerve stimulator.
You have glucose type 1 transporter deficiency syndrome (GLUT1 DS)
You have gotten good results with ketogenic diet therapies for epilepsy in the past and want to try again.
You are an adult with epilepsy who is overweight, or who has diabetes, obstructive sleep apnea or high blood pressure.
You are awaiting epilepsy surgery.”
It takes a team of nutritionists, doctors & nurses to keep adults & children alike in a state of ketosis to facilitate their medical condition without compromising their health.
The average person is incapable of maintaining ketosis and the ‘diet’ is intended as a regimen for non-epileptics, NOT a lifestyle.
The sooner people cease proselytizing about fantasy ‘diets’ which don’t exist as panacea for everyone’s ills, the better. There is a very easy answer for why it’s collectively referred to as “western lifestyle disease”, but almost no one wants to hear the answer.
I know: I have thousands of hours of research, writing & outreach with people who have severely-impaired health and the experience both prompted me to cease my outreach and write another book, which I hope to publish by the end of next year.
Keto as “regimen” with doctor’s approval is fine, but labeling it a lifestyle is like calling a Tesla “bulletproof”.
Insofar as this ‘doctor’ goes, there are doctors who still parade veganism as a healthy lifestyle as well. And let’s not forget about the ‘scientists’ who purport that New York will be under water in a few years...
“No, no, no, no, no. Not letting you get away with that.”
LOL, here’s the first return from Google on “Keto Diet News”. Sounds like they’re saying what I summarized - that Keto is SUICIDE, at least according the ‘experts’ (whose recommendations, by the way, happens to be well on the way towards turning half of the country diabetic).
https://www.sciencealert.com/study-on-half-a-million-people-has-bad-news-for-keto-diet
I assume your entire post was intended as sarcasm, because it's nonsense.
“(whose recommendations, by the way, happens to be well on the way towards turning half of the country diabetic).”
Technically not true. In fact, patently false. The only thing ‘wrong’ with the original food pyramid is that the government permitted the wheat industry to bias it heavy on breads. The problem is that almost NOBODY follows dietary recommendations until they’re trying to correct a problem...ignorant of the time required to restore health after decades of damage.
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS “30 DAYS TO GOOD HEALTH”!
Now we have at least one entire generation who has been conditioned to believe that good health is not possible without pills, powders & elixirs, with or without a gym membership. That’s rather pathetic, considering that a solution is within reach of everyone.
The first person to read a draft of my book followed my own recommendations - which do NOT, by the way, prescribe restrictive intake of carbs - and he lost weight, lowered his blood pressure and got off of all his medications, including for his pre-diabetes.
It took him over a year.
My own health matters required two solid years of very selective - NOT restrictive, in the popular sense - food choices. The 2nd year was worse than the first after realizing that I had intestinal matters to contend with. Those 2 years were the hardest thing I’ve ever done. I wrote my books to help others and tell my story. All told, I reversed over 60 individual symptoms, including enlarged prostate. I take no medications whatsoever and eat a normal diet which closely resembles a cross between the US food pyramid and that of Okinawa (there is good reason for the cross, not to be discussed here).
If extremes are what trips your trigger, I hold in my hands the solution to western lifestyle disease for most people, but NOT A SINGLE PERSON I laid out a health solution for would follow through.
NONE, save for the one guy who unknowingly read my draft. If I had to put a number on it, it’s far less than 1%, or a statistical zero. All because ********************************. (the answer is secret until publishing)
So like a B17 over Germany, I now come to expect the reality of people AND to get shot to pieces after I publish until the medical community comes to grips with their complicity in a century of damage and decades of bias toward ‘treatment’ rather than healing.
You must be a ‘keto cheerleader’, such as you echo the ignorance of others.
I forgot a promise I made to myself, so grab your lotion and enjoy the solitude: I’m done with the ignorant.
You’re really going off about your ‘book’ that no one here has seen, so I simply put you into the category of those who think Keto sucks. You’re one vote. There’s one other person that comes to mind here two, so that’s two votes.
Unfortunately, for you guys, there are about 60 people here, on my ping list, who say they have had GREAT RESULTS with Keto.
So the score is 60 to 2 in favor of Keto.
The medical community still has the food pyramid upside.
I have finally created my own conspiracy theory. I say this “tongue in cheek”, but I have become so distrustful of my government and so cynical toward Big Pharma, that I can safely say the conspiracy theory I invented — or think I have because I haven’t seen it or read it anywhere else yet — is at the very least “plausible”.
My conspiracy theory is that FDA has approved all manner of mildly toxic foods, and the conventional Big Medicine approved food pyramid with carbs being the basis for a diet, is to keep us acutely sick all the time to create a need for both Doctor visits and a wide variety of pharmaceuticals like Statins, which I think Statins are a mild poison in themselves.
So the FDA approves all manner of crap like high fructose corn syrup, which is more harmful than natural sugar — and the food pyramid insures we are burying outselves in carbs — and then we find ourselves mildly sick on that diet, and PRESTO! You think you need this drug and that drug.
If you just avoid refined sugar like the plague, avoid simple carbohydrates, and minimize your complex carbohydrates, you can eat all the fatty foods you want (I mean, watching your calorie intake, of course) and be healthy as an ox.
Fat is not the enemy. Refined sugar and simple starches are the enemy.
Oh , and EXERCISE.
You don’t need to be on a low fat diet. Dietary fat is not bad for you, nor is dietary cholesterol. The only thing bad about fat is that it is high calorie, so you don’t want to eat a lot of it or you will gain weight. But fat in itself is not harmful like sugar and simple carbs. They are the real danger.
Recently, I have been putting garlic and ground Flax seed in everything I eat that is logical to put them in. I can sprinkle ground Flax seed on almost anything without it ruining the taste or texture of the food. I can’t use garlic in everything, but there is a lot of cooking and food prep where 2 or 3 cloves just go right in without hurting the flavor at all, and often helping the flavor.
Fat and cholesterol are fine. Sugar and simple carbs are the dangers.
I still have to take a lesson from you and STOP eating after 7 PM. I munch all night and I know that is not healthy.
Agreed, Exercise is also the enemy.
I agree with you Freedom - fat isn’t just fine to eat, but trying to avoid both fat and carbs at the same time, such as eating low-fat meat, forces one to increase their protein intake (that’s it - everything we eat is either fat, protein, or carbs)...and high protein (certainly over 30% of calories) is not good as it stresses kidneys. Even our esteemed institutions (government, medical societies, etc.) is very quietly backing away from their claim that all fat is bad, as the data showing that claim is bs is now overwhelming.
Been known since the 1920’s. Otto Warburg won a Nobel prize in 1924 -100 years ago-for this observation
I think the history isn’t quite as evil as you put it, but the result is the same. As I understand the history, it started with one clown, Ancel Keys, who claimed that fat, not sugar (or other carbs) was the cause of all our health problems. His ‘evidence’ was very sketchy, but since no one else had anything better, government and others defaulted to him. When early, higher quality, studies proved he was full of crap, he literally shouted down those people and destroyed the careers of some of them.
Obviously, he’s been proven wrong, now. The problem was that the entire food industry and medical field relied on his work and his results (i.e., lots of sick people), and now you literally have millions, if not tens of millions of jobs at stake, should we reverse course and place blame where it lies (on carbs)...and so it gets VERY HARD to change recommendations, even with tons of data now showing that the initial (and still pretty much existing) recommendations are dead wrong.
As to the crappy chemicals being approved - part of that is relying on industry-paid for studies - gee, I wonder how those will work out, and also a desire to not be overly conservative so as to prevent new products from being released.
In the end, I just want to see people having a choice, but be given information supported by published facts. Something like 10 to 20% of the country can eat all the carbs they want and not get sick or overweight - and as far as I’m concerned, they should have access to all those delicious foods...but give others some freedom to decide what they value more, health or enjoying an unrestricted diet - and that’s not always an obvious choice.
I have no idea if it has any effect on cancer, but it certainly gets rid of fat.
In addition to keto, I have used intermittent fasting (leaving off the evening meal) and it also works like a charm.
What happens when you fast is that the body begins to clean out its toxic and harmful cellular wastes (and adipose tissue/fat). This process, known as autophagy, is like a computer file defrag for the body. There is Nobel Prize winning research to back up its various benefits (see Autophagy wins the 2016 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine).
For those interested, here is a brief article (source: Healthline) on autophagy...
What is autophagy?
Autophagy is the body’s way of cleaning out damaged cells, in order to regenerate newer, healthier cells, according to Priya Khorana, PhD, in nutrition education from Columbia University.
“Auto” means self and “phagy” means eat. So the literal meaning of autophagy is “self-eating.”
It’s also referred to as “self-devouring.” While that may sound like something you never want to happen to your body, it’s actually beneficial to your overall health.
This is because autophagy is an evolutionary self-preservation mechanism through which the body can remove the dysfunctional cells and recycle parts of them toward cellular repair and cleaning, according to board-certified cardiologist, Dr. Luiza Petre.
Petre explains that the purpose of autophagy is to remove debris and self-regulate back to optimal smooth function.
“It is recycling and cleaning at the same time, just like hitting a reset button to your body. Plus, it promotes survival and adaptation as a response to various stressors and toxins accumulated in our cells,” she adds. What are the benefits of autophagy?
The main benefits of autophagy seem to come in the form of anti-aging principles. In fact, Petre says it’s best known as the body’s way of turning the clock back and creating younger cells.
Khorana points out that when our cells are stressed, autophagy is increased in order to protect us, which helps enhance your lifespan.
Additionally, registered dietitian, Scott Keatley, RD, CDN, says that in times of starvation, autophagy keeps the body going by breaking down cellular material and reusing it for necessary processes.
“Of course this takes energy and cannot continue forever, but it gives us more time to find nourishment,” he adds.
At the cellular level, Petre says the benefits of autophagy include:
- removing toxic proteins from the cells that are attributed to neurodegenerative diseases, such as Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s disease
- recycling residual proteins
- providing energy and building blocks for cells that could still benefit from repair
- on a larger scale, it prompts regeneration and healthy cells
Autophagy is receiving a lot of attention for the role it may play in preventing or treating cancer, too.
“Autophagy declines as we age, so this means cells that no longer work or may do harm are allowed to multiply, which is the MO of cancer cells,” explains Keatley.
While all cancers start from some sort of defective cells, Petre says that the body should recognize and remove those cells, often using autophagic processes. That’s why some researchers are looking at the possibility that autophagy may lower the risk of cancer.
While there’s no scientific evidence to back this up, Petre says some studiesTrusted Source suggest that many cancerous cells can be removed through autophagy.
“This is how the body polices the cancer villains,” she explains. “Recognizing and destroying what went wrong and triggering the repairing mechanism does contribute to lowering the risk of cancer.”
Researchers believe that new studies will lead to insight that will help them target autophagy as a therapy for cancer.
Heheh. Clever.;-)
It might be Gerd from the citrus not from the garlic. Also an orange makes a great laxative from the cellulose in it(the laxative Citrucelle is made from such dried out “packets”), hence your bloating.
Gerd may be activated or aggrivated from the citrus you take at night and some of the acid may be splashing up into your respiratory tract, hence the wheezing or congestion you might be getting in your lungs. Try taking the orange in the morning when you are up and not when you are about to go to sleep....I’ll bet the problem disappears. The garlic might cause some bloating but if you eat the same in divided doses during the day I don’t think you’ll have a problem.
I think the orange just before bedtime is more your culprit. Don’t eat them at night before bedtime. For that matter a wad of fresh garlic with the orange at night time probably creates a perfect storm GERD issue.
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