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Into the inferno: Families boiled alive as they hid in water tanks and fleeing survivors trapped in molten tarmac... 75 years on, the most horrifically vivid account you'll ever read of the Allied bombing of Dresden – by a British PoW who saw it all
UK Daily Mail ^ | February 12, 2020 | Victor Gregg and Risk Stroud

Posted on 02/13/2020 7:17:08 AM PST by C19fan

During the final months of World War II, from February 13 to 15, 1945, Allied forces bombed the ancient, cathedral city of Dresden, in eastern Germany.

The bombing was controversial because Dresden's contribution to the war effort was minimal compared with other German cities — though it was a key transport junction and used by German forces to defend the country against Soviet forces approaching from the east.

Before the huge air raid, it had not suffered a major Allied attack. By February 15, however, it was a smouldering ruin — 2,400 tons of high explosives and 1,500 tons of incendiary bombs were dropped on the city. An unknown number of civilians, somewhere between 35,000 and 135,000, were dead.

British rifleman Victor Gregg was one of hundreds of men being held as a PoW in the city by the Germans. On the 75th anniversary of the start of the bombing, this is his eyewitness account of the devastation he left behind.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: bombing; dresden; eussr; fakenews; germany; neonazipropaganda; raf; waaaaaaaaaahmbulance; war
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To: 2banana

Like hell they were innocent. They were Nazi, that was a Nazi Transportation Hub, and the Russian army was coming in from the East. You supposed to leave them it untouched prepared to defend itself?
What else were the bombers supposed to do that day?

I swear, there’s a certain element of people that must watch the history channel and get a little sad feeling as the Red Army moved into Berlin.


41 posted on 02/13/2020 7:52:05 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Zhang Fei

War crime trials are unjustified for Battlefield actions. But for things like the death camps, rounding up everyone in town stripping the women naked and shooting them all in the head. Yes there should be trials and hangings. Those aren’t soldiers, those are common criminals. Calling up the Victor’s Justice is also lame. You can say that about every trial with a Criminal faces after a cop finds him and gets him under arrest.


42 posted on 02/13/2020 7:54:27 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: precisionshootist

Half my family lived in Germany during WWII. They were women, children, and ordinary business people. My then 10 year old father had a “military purpose”?

You’re a big talker behind your anonymous keyboard. And have a 10 cent brain.


43 posted on 02/13/2020 7:55:38 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: discostu

In war there are no good guys and bad guys just winners and losers. To suggest otherwise is hopelessly naive.


44 posted on 02/13/2020 7:56:28 AM PST by SanchoP (Yippy,the next generation search engine.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I don’t think you’re Isis because the 8th Air Force bombed in town full of Nazis. It’s noteworthy that none of the Jews of Dresden got bombed.


45 posted on 02/13/2020 7:56:39 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: C19fan

What is so controversial about Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Both were military actions designed to force the enemy to surrender. Which they did. As a result, millions of Japanese and American lives were saved when Japan surrendered. People who dare to blame US for H & N should be reminded of Pearl Harbor...


46 posted on 02/13/2020 7:57:00 AM PST by exinnj
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To: precisionshootist

“You think directly targeting and killing innocent people, with no military purpose, is OK? You are no better than ISIS“

They weren’t innocent. We were at war with the west/infidels and not just the infidel soldiers. Every western/infidel citizen had a military purpose either directly or indirectly.

There FIXED it for ya.


47 posted on 02/13/2020 7:57:19 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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To: C19fan

It shortened the war, and the Germans haven’t started another world war since then.

$crew all former nazis.

www.history.com

The Blitz begins as Germany bombs London - HISTORY
On September 7, 1940, 300 German bombers raid London, in the first of 57 consecutive nights of bombing. ... But with Germany failing to cripple Britain’s air power, especially in the Battle of Britain, Hitler changed strategies. ... By the end of the day, German planes had dropped 337 tons

The Nazis started the massive bombings of non combatants.

How many civilians did the German Nazis kill in Poland and Russia?


48 posted on 02/13/2020 7:57:47 AM PST by Grampa Dave (I feel very fortunate to be living in the time of PRESIDENT TRUMP. (Thanks to rrrod!))
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To: Williams

That would be “Bomber” Harris. On the other hand, a leading NAZI, (Goebbels?) said that after the first mass bombing of a German city, Hamburg, the German people would quit if 10 more such incidents occurred.


49 posted on 02/13/2020 7:58:00 AM PST by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: 2banana

Dresden was a manufacturing center.


50 posted on 02/13/2020 7:58:49 AM PST by GingisK
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To: DesertRhino

Like hell they were innocent. They were infidels, that was a infidel Transportation Hub, and the islamic migration was coming in from the East. You supposed to leave them it untouched prepared to defend itself?
What else were the suicide bombers supposed to do that day?

There FIXED it for ya.


51 posted on 02/13/2020 7:59:42 AM PST by 2banana (My common ground with islamic terrorists - they want to die for allah and we want to kill them.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

And the AXIS ally, the USSR.


52 posted on 02/13/2020 7:59:44 AM PST by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: Mears

Finally

Crypto-liberals and libs try to wreck
every thread


53 posted on 02/13/2020 7:59:57 AM PST by Phil DiBasquette
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To: Michael.SF.

Spoken like somebody who was not there. I guess we should have just rolled on into Berlin and presented them with the surrender paper. You can’t say that it did not help win the war. That’s like being in a street fight and deciding that one of the punches really didn’t help much. What brought the Nazis down was an absolute crescendo violence in the last few months. If the Nazis cared so much about the architecture of Dresden, they could have declared an open City and evacuated like Paris


54 posted on 02/13/2020 8:00:04 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: discostu

Civilians beget soldiers.


55 posted on 02/13/2020 8:00:18 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Michael.SF.

The responsible person was named Adolph Hitler.


56 posted on 02/13/2020 8:01:56 AM PST by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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To: Mears

You ever noticed you never hear much about all the Jews who died in the bombing of Dresden? Wonder why? They had all been murdered three or four years before. Play stupid games Win stupid prizes. I’m not going to waste any time worrying about the bombing of Dresden. The Germans had the option to surrender at any time


57 posted on 02/13/2020 8:02:57 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: All

You win and end wars by killing enough of the enemy to demoralize and subdue them into quitting...No matter what it takes...


58 posted on 02/13/2020 8:03:43 AM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC.....Patriotically Correct)
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To: Mears

Always interesting to watch the German Lamentations against the abuse of innocent civilians.


59 posted on 02/13/2020 8:04:05 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: 2banana

You think the bombing of infrastructure has no military purpose?

You have the same level of military competence as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.

It might be a good idea for you to go find a forum with no historians and no Veterans on it so that your level of ignorance on the topic doesn’t grate on people.

Seriously.

You are like the people who absolutely know where milk comes from. Duh, it comes from the refrigerated section at the grocery store.


60 posted on 02/13/2020 8:04:29 AM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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