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Don’t ask permission, ask forgiveness: The USMC pilot who “borrowed” a helo to end a sniper situation has died
We Are The Mighty ^ | 2/19/2020

Posted on 02/19/2020 12:37:56 PM PST by Gamecock

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To: Gamecock

I counted nine murdered. Wikipedia says 13 more wounded.


21 posted on 02/19/2020 1:27:58 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (A socalist is someone that wants everything you have except your job.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Today it wouldn’t happen, the pilots would have been homos or trannies, they wouldn’t want to break a nail.


22 posted on 02/19/2020 1:31:39 PM PST by allwrong57
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To: Gamecock

Just fantastic. Thanks so much for posting this.


23 posted on 02/19/2020 1:32:30 PM PST by JOHN ADAMS
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To: Moonman62
Wow, what a great story and this is the first I’ve heard of it.

Wow is right, I never heard of this event either......

24 posted on 02/19/2020 1:32:31 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (I want an impeachment pen)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

LOL!!!


25 posted on 02/19/2020 1:34:25 PM PST by 1FreeAmerican
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To: Gamecock
The cops on the scene sought his advice, and his years of service in Vietnam kicked in. Essex had the high ground, so Pittman would go higher.

Well there you go. He had the high ground. And we all know what happens when you have the high ground.


26 posted on 02/19/2020 1:37:19 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: Gamecock

My God that is hardcore! I have never heard this story until now.


27 posted on 02/19/2020 1:39:41 PM PST by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Gamecock

Wow, what a story! Sometimes truth is better than fiction.


28 posted on 02/19/2020 1:44:18 PM PST by Sans-Culotte (With every passing day, I am a little bit gladder that Romney lost in 2012.)
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To: Gamecock
It is because of incidents like this that the Police now feel the need to one one of these:


29 posted on 02/19/2020 1:44:23 PM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Gamecock

a hero.....


30 posted on 02/19/2020 1:49:01 PM PST by cherry
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To: Gamecock
You would think that the Marine Corps would look at the badassery that Pitman just pulled off and call it a public relations coup. But, they didn't (of course) and started the process of a court-martial.

That doesn't surprise me at all. Getting military equipment involved in civil affairs is a major line that's not supposed to be crossed.

It's just like current intelligence oversight. Military reconnaissance equipment CANNOT be used to take imagery of USPERS except under very narrow circumstances. Incidentally when viewing major natural disasters as part of disaster relief efforts. Incidentally when civilians are traveling on open roads through military bases. But if hikers get lost in the woods, and the local cops request help, the nearby base WILL NOT use aerial assets to help find the missing people. This can only be done with special permission from the Sec of Defense.

It's not to keep the military from helping, it's to prevent the military from using its power in an unConstitutional manner. Sure, Pitman ended up being a 'hero' of the situation, but what happens when the FBI asks for military help at a place like Ruby Ridge? What if the military has collateral damage, kills an innocent? There are reasons that the military is kept out of performing missions like these, except in very narrow circumstances.
31 posted on 02/19/2020 2:12:29 PM PST by Svartalfiar
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32 posted on 02/19/2020 2:14:13 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation has ended!)
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To: Yo-Yo

And incidents like that show why they do not.


33 posted on 02/19/2020 2:15:26 PM PST by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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34 posted on 02/19/2020 2:16:06 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation has ended!)
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To: Gamecock
 
 
What I recall the cop triggerman on board the helo was a combat vet of the Vietnam War who went into police work after getting out of the service. The problem they were having is that Essex was taking cover in a partially open concrete cubicle on the roof and would shimmy up a pipe out of sight every time the helo swooped in. When they finally tricked Essex down into the open before he could scramble back up the pipe the cop did a mag dump on him with an M16.
 
 

35 posted on 02/19/2020 2:16:51 PM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: Gamecock
Can't wait for the movie.

Hope Clint has one left in him.

36 posted on 02/19/2020 2:37:59 PM PST by Aevery_Freeman (So, Wuhan China had a Bio-weapons Lab...who knew?)
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To: Gamecock

FTA: When all was said and done, Essex was found with over 200 rounds in his body.

That was when the police could hit their target instead of hitting everything but the target : )


37 posted on 02/19/2020 2:47:27 PM PST by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....He the master will plant more cotton for the democrat party)
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To: MrEdd

Huh?


38 posted on 02/19/2020 2:53:31 PM PST by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Gamecock

He just looks like a Marine. Ooh Rah


39 posted on 02/19/2020 2:56:12 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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Ooo ra


40 posted on 02/19/2020 2:59:53 PM PST by silverleaf (Remember kids: You can vote your way into communism, but you have to shoot your way out!)
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