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Italian doctor at heart of illness shares chilling coronavirus thoughts
New York Post ^ | March 10, 2020 | 8:02am | Yaron Steinbuch

Posted on 03/11/2020 10:54:24 AM PDT by Zhang Fei

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To: alstewartfan
I listen to Rush for perspective, which he gave today. May he be around for another 10-15 years!!

Amen! Even the stock market rallied when he came on, LOL!

61 posted on 03/12/2020 11:04:38 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: alstewartfan

Rush is a buffoon in this.


62 posted on 03/12/2020 12:01:45 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

Rush isn’t saying this isn’t serious, he knows it is. But yes there are plenty in the media that are exploiting this because “Orange Man Bad”.

Compare and contrast with H1N1 in 2009.


63 posted on 03/12/2020 12:04:22 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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I think their downplaying is going to bite them in the ass. Not suggesting he go “end of days” like Beck, but the incessant and irrelevant comparison to “the flu” is dangerous.

But, we will see.


64 posted on 03/12/2020 12:06:14 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

He laid out the facts. H1N1 killed over 12,000 Americans, with virtually nothing shut down.


65 posted on 03/12/2020 1:06:06 PM PDT by alstewartfan (Always someone out there...to take your place. Just in a flash you're yesterday's face. Al Stewart)
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I hope we end up with less than that.

I never advocated doing anything but buy an extra can of beans, so I am not sure why you are directing that venom at me.

Personally, I am fine in my situation. Don’t need any food, got plenty of toilet paper and my dog.

I think this is going to mess up the hospitals. I think if the L strain of the virus hits, it will be messy.

But to make it sound like I have suggested anyone do anything is just a lie. I would be happy if we did nothing and the flu bro’s learned their lessons. But, whatever...I will continue to read stories and make fun of stupidity.

I think the government handling of this has been flat footed and slow. I think Trump looks scared to death. He is out of his element. He is being played by Congress and the CDC.

I think his speech last night was horribly presented. He looked as if he were seeing those words for he first time.

He better get his shit together, fast. Because he took a huge step backward last night.


66 posted on 03/12/2020 1:15:33 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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If you read *venom* in any of my words, I am sorry. Absolutely none was directed at you. I agree with you that the President was badly advised on how to deliver the speech. There is mass hysteria in America right now, and all I see is media in general and virtually all Democrats fanning the flames.
As of yesterday, 37 deaths, virtually all of them among the elderly and infirm. IMO, NOT cause to shut down the country. Maybe I am the fool VL, but I am proceeding with life as usual.


67 posted on 03/13/2020 8:20:45 AM PDT by alstewartfan (Always someone out there...to take your place. Just in a flash you're yesterday's face. Al Stewart)
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I continue my life as well.

The “message” I am taking away from all of this is that it is probably worse than we know.

My concern is that there are two variations of this virus that are running around the world. In Italy and Iran, it is a variation “L”. The variation appears to be more contagious and more lethal. That is coming at us from the east.

From the west, is the type S. This variation is the South Korean and Far East version. This is the 80% mild version.

What we are not hearing from “our” testing is which is coming our way.

Is it worth shutting down the country? Probably not. At least not right now.

If the L version is found in an urban area...that is a concern.

I think people are “uneducated” about this, and infectious disease all around. A day spent reading some of the early information about Wuhan would scare the be-jeezuz out of a lot of people—but 99% of America was not paying attention. Remember, this was during the impeachment and the Holiday season.

Most Americans started paying attention last week. That is like showing up in Europe in February 1940 and looking around and saying, “Everything looks fine to me!”

I am not a gloom and doomer. My background is in Emergency Prep and Hospital Logistics and networking. I am a realist.

If it goes south, it will do so quickly and it will scare everyone.

Also, all along, I was saying the issue isn’t dying. This isn’t going to kill you or me. (probably not.) But it is going to mess stuff up for a while. The shock to market should not surprise anyone—least of all the folks in the White House. Supply chains have been disrupted and the oil shock—not related to the disease—are more responsible than “fear.”

So, I think that is a well reasoned and thought out position. It is not based on fear. It is based on an understanding of how shit works in this world.

If you look at the rantings on both sides, you will see little well thought out, reasoned thinking. You simply see the regurgitation of Trump and Rush. Neither or whom have any idea what Emergency Prep looks like at the hospital levels. And remember—the CDC is a bunch of research guys. They are not hospitalists.

The only government administrator on this that makes me feel comfortable is Ben Carson. He is the only one that understands the day to day operation of a hospital.

Faucci is good—but he has been a researcher and not practicing since the 1980’s. Not exactly up to date on how stuff works in the real world.

But, life goes on. I feel good. I stay secluded, taking care of my chemo-filled wife. We were not going anywhere, anyhow.

I am trying to present a position—not in opposition to anyone. If I sounded short, I apologize. That is not my intention.


68 posted on 03/13/2020 8:37:07 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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I have counted on you to be reasonable, objective and sane these last weeks. And funny. In my book, funny is key;)

Even at my hospital I watch the differences between the responses from administrators and the docs. Their agendas are not the same and it shows. I am not picking on admin- they just see a different world than docs/nurses.


69 posted on 03/13/2020 8:46:33 AM PDT by SE Mom (Screaming Eagle mom)
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To: Vermont Lt

Thank you so much for your well-reasoned response. God bless your beautiful wife! Prayers for her, Sir.


70 posted on 03/13/2020 8:53:07 AM PDT by alstewartfan (A bear won't treat you so You're satisfied to know when he chews you up he still respects you. Al S)
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To: Zhang Fei

Well, when you tell your population that they’re going to die and seek medical attention then they seek medical attention, needed or not.


71 posted on 03/13/2020 8:55:11 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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