Posted on 03/31/2020 9:20:40 PM PDT by Manly Warrior
What about acquired immunity to many strains of flu and vaccinations in the population? That’s not likely the case with SARS-COV-2. Maybe besides individuals taking precautions, the lack of immunity has something to do with the communicability.
There’s also what you mentioned about flu season. I saw at least three flus blow through acquaintances and family from early fall through early January. They were all mild, though one took a little longer to recover from.
well the “precautions” would be coming at the very end of the flu season, so i doubt they had much effect on the flu.
i hope and pray these precautions and gov’t missives are now slowing the spread of covid at least among those susceptible to it (genetically, elderly, immuno-compromised), or we are doing a tremendous amount of damage to the nation for nothing. it may become seasonal or not, they don’t know at this point. if it does, then most of us will eventually have a bout with it. maybe many of us already had. i certainly had a bad cold in dec/jan that stayed with me for 3+ weeks.
It’s taking down many young folks, and the cases are slow to resolve. Someone mentioned MO earlier. Let’s see...
Okay, look at the age ranges.
https://health.mo.gov/living/healthcondiseases/communicable/novel-coronavirus/results.php
See? They’re unable to work. Don’t know how long, but we’ll find out in time.
Nobody gets a chance to die of something else this week.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
The estimate for this year is 24k-62k deaths.
There have been a few descriptions on news sites from young people of their experiences with COVID-19 while confined to their homes. Very interesting.
My son is calling them "Cronies".
They will be the cleanest babies in history.
Has Inslee stated under what conditions we will be allowed to get back to normal life? No deaths or infections for a week? A month? Three months? A year? What???
To my knowledge, there has been no sustained or urgent work on a SARS vaccine since 2004.
In any event, the resistance of young people in King County (Seattle) to COVID-19 is still remarkable.
The COVID-19 outbreak at the Kirkland, WA, nursing home was one of the most virulent and destructive medical events in recent American history. At least 35 residents died, and almost 100 staff were infected during a two week period.
But, less than three weeks later, high risk individuals in King County are testing positive at a 13% rate (compare almost 40% for peak seasonal influenza), and our Case Fatality Rate is 6.4%, almost one half of the Italian rate.
My theory - COVID-19 has already mutated into a much more benign disease in King County.
“Maybe they’re just calling all colds and flu Covid-19 to bump up the numbers and justify the artificial hysteria and pandemic panic.”
I don’t think very many doctors went to school for 20 years so they could be part of a cult whose mission is to deceive the public.
I’ve been asking that question for the last couple weeks. If this social distancing “proves” effective, then get ready for the full time police state.
Reported colds and flu are down.
I’m concerned that some folks may be refusing to seek medical advice for mild symptoms because they don’t want to quarantined for 14 days. And if so, and if some of those folks aren’t self-quarantining for whatever it is they have...
The cold and flu stats could be good news or bad news.
No conspiracy , keep your tinfoil off for now!
My point was leading to the discussion of how the total number of deaths reach an endpoint of sorts- is that what’s happening?
So all the world is practicing better cold/flu hygiene in general, so those rates drop. Meanwhile, covid19 rates are rising ( what’s the connection, if any?). If good hygiene is slowing common cold/flu, why not Covid19? Or is that a product of lag time from beginning of better practices to incubation/symptoms etc?
Thanks, so it was 2017-2018 flu season. I thought it was but couldn’t quite remember.
I noted early on if the mass economic shutdown was good for lowering Covid-19 case numbers, then wouldn’t the same economic disaster lower the seasonal flu case numbers, every year. And, then would that really be a good national policy, every year, from November to April??? Could we “survive” that?
You need to compare the death rate with the recovery rate. Some of the deaths are after prolonged illnesses. This guy was hospitalized March 8th or earlier, positive on the 13th, and died on the 29th (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/henry-county-democratic-chairman-al-grimes-dies-of-covid-19-missouri-party-chair-says/ar-BB11SIzb).
Washington does have a different strain/mutation pattern than the rest of the country, at least as far as the genomes they’ve sequenced. It and the west coast had one set of strains out of China. Europe early on had a different set of strains (in blue) and the rest of the US and the world has shown more in common with Europe. https://nextstrain.org/ncov?c=clade_membership&r=division - if it doesn’t already show, set geographic resolution to “division” on the side to see within countries.
It looks like the European strain has expanded in Washington lately, so comparison to Italy may not be best. However, not that many strains out of Italy have been sequenced when compared to northwest Europe.
How convenient — for Dr. Birx and other data harvesters. Just roll the flu stats into the WuFlu stats. Pretty soon the numbers will be as devastating as they want them to be. When you’re in charge of collecting, processing, and disseminating the data, you have the power to manipulate the population.
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