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FBI Raids Detroit-Area Medical Facility 'For Using Intravenous Vitamin C to Treat COVID-19 Patients
InformationLiberation ^ | Apr. 24, 2020 | Chris Menahan

Posted on 04/25/2020 1:07:03 PM PDT by Hojczyk

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To: mad_as_he$$
Sorry you feel that. I've cured myself and my wife of a ton of maladies, one of which sent me into retirement from the Marines: and I completely healed it. Those that call him a quack, can never state his error.I It's always name calling. Ad hominem attacks. Just like Democrats.

I am batting 1.000 getting people off of insulin in my family. But sure, he's a quack. Whatever.

61 posted on 04/25/2020 3:46:05 PM PDT by Salvavida
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To: absalom01

M.D. = Medical Doctor
D.O. = Doctor of Osteopathy
D.C. = Doctor of Chiropractic
J.D. = Juris Doctor

If you are sick, better to see someone at the top of that list than at the bottom of the list.


62 posted on 04/25/2020 3:55:25 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Hojczyk

An acquaintance of mine in Moldova had cancer and was self treating himself with massive doses of intravenous Vitamin C. (In Moldova intravenous Vitamin C and injection methods are sold over the counter.) The cancer finally got him. RIP.


63 posted on 04/25/2020 3:59:18 PM PDT by upchuck (Tired of all the tyranny brought on by leftist politicians.)
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To: All

The beast cannot allow We-The-People to use YHVH (God) healing ways.


64 posted on 04/25/2020 4:00:35 PM PDT by veracious (UN=OIC=Islam; USgov may be radically changed, just amend USConstitution)
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To: MarvinStinson

“The problem with many FDA approved medicines is that we as a species evolved without them”

Scientists have determined how various processes work and how they go wrong. Medications like Xanax are an attempt to better modulate those processes. The reason we have side effects is that once nature finds a process that works, it uses it over and over to do different functions. So, a misfiring nerve in the cortex might be positively effected by a drug but other processes in the body use that very same process to accomplish something else. On top of that, although humans are largely the same on the macro scale, at the smaller scales some of us have more nerves in one area than in another area, thus side effects can be deadly to the percentages of those people who are assembled slightly differently.


65 posted on 04/25/2020 4:14:44 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: PAR35

Not to get into the OD/MD battle, but the degrees are fully equivalent, both take the same state boards, same residency etc.

They’re both medical doctors with the same professional qualifications.

My personal physician at the moment happens to have an MD, but I’ve seen an OD in the past and believe I received the same standard of care. To each his own!


66 posted on 04/25/2020 4:23:15 PM PDT by absalom01 (You should do your dut!!y in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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To: Gen.Blather

There is no more addictive ‘medicine’ than Xanax.

All the benzodiazepines are dangerous.


67 posted on 04/25/2020 4:28:58 PM PDT by MarvinStinson
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To: Salvavida

I have just the opposite experience. In the late 80’s Wallach tied in with a MLM guy in Santa Cruz where I lived at the time. The MLM guy sold us on the program along with a large number of others. We all went all in. After about six months the MLM guy stroked out and one of the other committed people had a serious heart attack at the ripe old age of 32. I stopped the mineral goo and went what is now called keto diet and improved my medical situation with that. Glad you had results that were positive but Wallach fits the classic definition of a quack.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Joel_D._Wallach


68 posted on 04/25/2020 4:41:49 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: Hojczyk

Are they afraid people might get well?


69 posted on 04/25/2020 4:42:05 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: WildHighlander57

https://tiny.iavian.net/zorf

Follow the enbedded links to her blog, The Purist.

As a retired biophysicist and biomed engineer, I found the article fascinating. The joint undertsanding of physical chemistry and electromagnetics is mind-bending. /S But her menus looked good.

And I support her right to do whatever she damn-well wishes to herself.


70 posted on 04/25/2020 5:03:24 PM PDT by NelsTandberg
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To: PAR35
You might want to read this, cause he is

https://scalingup.com/anaheim-summit/dr-charles-mok-2019-scaleup-summit-anaheim-ca/

Now does that mean I would go to him? NO......Does it mean that he may not practice Quackery? NO

71 posted on 04/25/2020 5:16:19 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Norski

Years ago there was some testing on “internal” vitamin C creation in goats.
You do know that most animals on the planet actually don’t need vitamin C, because they make their own?
Humans (and all great apes) lack one of the genes (out of three) to make their own vitamin C.
Anyways, they took some goats and put them on a shock pad where a few times a day they were given a jolt.
After a few days, these goats (whose normal production of Vitamin C was in the 6,000-10,000 mg range SKYROCKETED to about 100,000 milligrams per day!
Tells you something about goats, eh?
Fauci would probably say it doesn’t mean anything for humans at all...


72 posted on 04/25/2020 5:26:40 PM PDT by djf (Better to be anecdotally alive than clinically dead!)
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To: djf

What the HELL has the FBI got to do with healthcare OMG!!


73 posted on 04/25/2020 5:28:12 PM PDT by Trump Girl Kit Cat (Yosemite Sam raising hell)
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To: Salvavida

“...where I couldn’t order a lab test without a doctor’s prescription. So much for free market capitalism.”

Worse than that, try getting a valid surgical procedure done and having to wait to be “approved” by the insurance company.


74 posted on 04/25/2020 5:28:28 PM PDT by LastDayz (A blunt and brazen Texan. I will not be assimilated.)
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To: mass55th
How can people getting the injections from this guy know what they are actually being injected with?

Reportedly the "guy" is a doctor. As a DO he would have the same type of training and licensing as any other doctor practicing medicine.

His patients would have the same level of information as any other person being injected by their doctor, or in a hospital.

That said it is an unfortunate fact that people get injections occasionally where a mistake is made. Usually in hospital settings.

75 posted on 04/25/2020 5:48:23 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Bratch

Try Liposomal Vit. “C”...


76 posted on 04/25/2020 5:49:37 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Mar's isn't a place to raise your kid...)
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To: djf

Page 5 of 11 | EVMS Critical Care COVID-19 Management Protocol 04-20-2020 |

evms.edu/covidcare

11.Escalation of respiratory support (steps); Try to avoid intubation if at all possible, (see Figure 3)
•Accept “permissive hypoxemia” (keep O2 Saturation > 84%) •N/C 1-6 L/min•High Flow Nasal canula (HFNC) up to 60-80 L/min
•Trial of inhaled Flolan (epoprostenol)•Attempt proning (cooperative repositioning-proning; see Figure)
•Intubation ... by Expert intubator; Rapid sequence. No Bagging; Full PPE. Crash/emergency intubations should be avoided.
•Volume protective ventilation; Lowest driving pressure and lowest PEEP as possible. Keep driving pressures < 15 cmH2O. •Moderate sedation to prevent self-extubation
•Trial of inhaled Flolan (epoprostenol)•Prone positioning•?? ECMO < 60 yrs. and no severe commodities/organ failure.

There is widespread concern that using HFNC could increase the risk of viral transmission. There is however, no evidence to support this fear.
HFNC is a better option for the patient and the health care system than intubation and mechanical ventilation.

CPAP/BiPAP may be used in select patients, notably those with COPD exacerbation or heart failure.

A sub-group of patients with COVID-19 deteriorates very rapidly. Intubation and mechanical ventilation may be required in these patients.

12. Treatment of secondary HLH (increasing Ferritin, CRP and transaminases)
•“High dose corticosteroids.” Methylprednisolone 120 mg q 8 hourly for at least 3 days, then wean accruing to CRP, IL-6, Ferritin etc (see Figure 4).
•Tocilizumab (IL-6 inhibitor) as per dosing guideline. •Consider plasma exchange 13.Monitoring•Daily: PCT, CRP, IL-6, BNP, Troponins, Ferritin, Neutrophil-Lymphocyte ratio, D-dimer and Mg.

CRP, IL-6 and Ferritin track disease severity closely.
Thromboelastogram (TEG) on admission and repeated as indicated.

•In patients receiving IV vitamin C, the Accu-Chek™ POC glucose monitor will result in spuriously high blood glucose values. Therefore, a laboratory glucose is recommended to confirm the blood glucose levels.
•Monitor QTc interval if using chloroquine/hydrochloroquine and azithromycin and monitor Mg++ (torsades is uncommon in monitored ICU patients)
•No routine CT scans, follow CXR and chest ultrasound.
•Follow ECHO closely; Pts develop a severe cardiomyopathy.

Page 6 of 11 | EVMS Critical Care COVID-19 Management Protocol 04-20-2020 | evms.edu/covidcare

14.Post ICU managementa.Enoxaparin 40-60 mg s/c dailyb.

Methylprednisone 40 mg day, the wean slowlyc.
Vitamin C 500 mg PO BIDd.
Melatonin 3-6 mg at nig


77 posted on 04/25/2020 6:42:31 PM PDT by Norski
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To: LoveMyFreedom; Fresh Wind

https://www.evms.edu/media/evms_public/departments/internal_medicine/EVMS_Critical_Care_COVID-19_Protocol.pdf

Page 1 of 11 | EVMS Critical Care COVID-19 Management Protocol 04-20-2020 | evms.edu/covidcareEVMS

CRITICAL CARECOVID-19 MANAGEMENT PROTOCOL Developed and updated by Paul Marik, MDChief of Pulmonary and Critical Care MedicineEastern Virginia Medical School, Norfolk, VAApril 20th, 2020URGENT!

Please circulate as widely as possible. It is crucial that every pulmonologist, every critical care doctor and nurse, every hospital administrator, every public health official receive this information immediately.

This is our recommended approach to COVID-19 based on the best (and most recent) literature. We should not re-invent the wheel but learn from the experience of others.

This is a very dynamic situation; therefore, we will be updating the guideline as new information emerges. Please check on the EVMS website for updated versions of this protocol.

EVMS COVID website: https://www.evms.edu/covid-19/medical_information_resources/Short url: evms.edu/covidcare

“If what you are doing ain’t working, change what you are doing”Dr AB (NYC).

“We have zero success for patients who were intubated. Our thinking is changing to postpone intubation to as long as possible, to prevent mechanical injury from the ventilator. These patients tolerate arterial hypoxia surprisingly well. Natural course seems to be the best.”

Much more at link. This is partial of pdf. Difficulty formatting for me. For those in places with difficulty obtaining HCQ, extremely important.


78 posted on 04/25/2020 7:01:54 PM PDT by Norski
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To: NelsTandberg

NelsTandberg wrote:


https://tiny.iavian.net/zorf

Follow the enbedded links to her blog, The Purist.

As a retired biophysicist and biomed engineer, I found the article fascinating. The joint undertsanding of physical chemistry and electromagnetics is mind-bending. /S But her menus looked good.

And I support her right to do whatever she damn-well wishes to herself.”

Many thanks!

People should be free to try; average Joe & Jane should not be treated one way, and rich people another way.


79 posted on 04/25/2020 7:25:21 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: mad_as_he$$
I don't know what your definition of quack it, but quacks do not cure people. You described a ridiculously small sample size when compared to hundreds of thousands if not millions over more than 50 years.

And at issue is the science. He has been sued by Big Pharma no less than 11 times....and he was won every single case based off of science. No one has that record.

I have seen the websites that criticize him. I can tell you my former career as an intelligence specialist served me well to sift through bias and unfounded accusations. Not once do they attack the science and they have no answer for the legions of people he has cured (and Wallach cannot use the "cure" word, even though he does. He uses "supports health."

They certainly do not touch his credentials. Quacks don't have works that are inducted into the Smithsonian Institute. He teaches doctors (MDs) and nurses, not the other way around.

Sorry you had a bad experience, but it wasn't from his product. Just bad timing-- they were not reached in time to repair the damage from the standard American diet (SAD).

NIH and Big Pharma loath him. He is a threat because he cures people. The science is unassailable and it is not a hidden issue-- he is published. Quacks don't do that. If you can come up with a declarative sentence where he is wrong, I'd love to examine it.

On the contrary, when friends, family and co-workers get the flu, I get rid of it in about 10 hours, with recovery results in about 1 hour. I have GROWN CARTILAGE in my joints after punishing them during a 20 year Marine Corps career. Go find a MD that can do that. Not one, and I had the Navy's best orthopedic surgeon in 2004 at Bethesda Naval Medical Center. I was forced into retirement in 2005 while I was on the selection board for Master Sergeant--which would have kept me in for another 3 years.

It's all about the science. I don't do emotion or logic fallacies. Because of Dr Wallach, I walked away from degenerative disk disease, plantar fasciitis, carpal tunnel, allergies, arthritis, high cholesterol, gout and kidney disease. I take zero prescription drugs as a retiree and I do not get sick, particularly the flu since 2012.

To this day, I draw ZERO veteran's disability because I screwed up and cured myself of all maladies. I could have received at least 50% disability paid for by the taxpayers for the rest of my life.

80 posted on 04/25/2020 8:58:42 PM PDT by Salvavida
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