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To: pfflier

She was climbing with a left turn at slow speedand rolled 90 degrees left resulting in no lift.

Nose fell and no recovery. Not a scenario you would see from an experienced pilot.


18 posted on 05/18/2020 9:22:27 AM PDT by TexasGator (Z1z)
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To: TexasGator
She was climbing with a left turn at slow speedand rolled 90 degrees left resulting in no lift. Nose fell and no recovery. Not a scenario you would see from an experienced pilot.

I witnessed exactly the same type of mishap while I was approaching the airport where we used to keep our airplane. It resulted in the deaths of 6 sky divers and the hotshot pilot. I followed the lone firefighter on the field and assisted him at the gruesome scene. At one point, he said, “Watch out you are going to step on that guy's head!” The bodies were so badly damaged and burned that it was difficult to make some of them out.

The last two fatalities on the airport where we now live were both high time airline pilots who both experienced engine failure on takeoff in their small sport aircraft. These were two separate incidents. Both stalled while trying to turn back to the airport and augured straight in from several hundred feet. Experienced pilots can make mistakes. Flying can be unforgiving.

24 posted on 05/18/2020 9:34:07 AM PDT by fireman15
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The CT-114 was re-designed in 1967 for aerobatics and by 1998 there were still over 100 still in service. During 2000, the majority of Tutors were retired. Since then, it has continued to be used in limited numbers by the service for both experimental (by the Aerospace Engineering Test Establishment (AETE) at CFB Cold Lake, Alberta) and aerial display purposes. By 2019, there were 24 examples registered as in service with the RCAF.

I read a number of entries on line about this and I can’t find where who was at the stick at the time of the incident. Each story identified her and “the pilot.”

In watching the films it looked like when the aircraft started into the port climbing turn and got to the top it may have slipped thus causing a stall. And at that altitude there wasn’t going to be enough air to correct so they both punched out plane to hit where it was going to. Factually, I have no idea why they took that turn to begin with as they were not doing a show, that was the previous day, and the plane was riding a PR officer who would, most likely, not have been there during the show.

Could have been pilot error or mechanical. This may be a tough one for the TSB, their version of our NTSB. There is no “blackbox” in the trainer so radio, aircraft recovered pieces, and filmed flight movements will have to be evaluated of the incident. This will take a long time and a lot of possible speculation. I’ve been involved with investigation working with our NTSB while working for Uncle Sugar both active, NAF, and DOD. They are in for a challenge.

rwood


33 posted on 05/18/2020 10:05:41 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: TexasGator
She was climbing with a left turn at slow speed and rolled 90 degrees left resulting in no lift.

I don't think that was the intent at all. She was flying with her fellow pilot when she suddenly veered off and up to the left.......Electronics or mechanical malfunction is my guess.......

48 posted on 05/18/2020 1:55:23 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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well she wasn’t experienced and she wasn’t the pilot....the pilot ejected....survived but barely...


53 posted on 05/18/2020 3:20:37 PM PDT by cherry
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