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Solid State Hard Drives vs Mechanical Hard Drives
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Posted on 05/18/2020 5:59:01 PM PDT by ducttape45

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To: ducttape45

They are a whole lot faster. A 500GB SSD gave my 12-year old Dell Latitude E6500 a whole new lease on life. It’s fast enough for development work now.


21 posted on 05/18/2020 6:19:14 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed the Communist Revolution would arrive disguised as the common cold?)
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To: ducttape45

As far as your media problem, without a time machine or the gift of prophecy it is difficult to know what the future will hold.

Some thoughts:

Something without moving pieces usually lasts longer than those with.

I have a voice recorder I got from Radio Shack 10 years ago. It has ‘static memory’. I haven’t used it for 8 years. Got it out of the drawer and it works, everything I recorded is still on it.

Even the SSD storage will eventually be replaced by something else. It is the nature of the beast (electronics industry).


22 posted on 05/18/2020 6:21:50 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: ducttape45

SSD for the win. I switched all my boxes to SSD years ago and have not had any issues. So much faster for boot, reading and writing. Never a need to defrag. More energy efficient. You should be backing up your systems anyway, so even if one craps out after a few years (which none of mine have), it’s super simple just to throw in a replacement and restore the backup. I would never go back to spinning drives.


23 posted on 05/18/2020 6:21:58 PM PDT by KevinB ("Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin)
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To: ducttape45
The laptops in my org stay online 24/7/365, and I’m afraid we’ll reach that barrier a lot faster than most.

The supposed limits of SSD life are based on number of writes not how long they're powered on. Unless they're reading and writing 24x7, that should be irrelevant.

24 posted on 05/18/2020 6:25:16 PM PDT by KevinB ("Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge." - Charles Darwin)
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To: ducttape45
-- The laptops in my org stay online 24/7/365 .. --

Same here. Small population tho'.

SSD failure mode is "data lost, period."

SSD failure rate depends on maker, and is never zero.

i LOVE LOVE LOVE SSD. Backup to spinning iron, with at least two duplicates there.

No brainer to me, SSD on the laptop. Much higher tolerance of drops, so much faster, and the downside risk of data loss is easy to manage. Copy to off the laptop.

25 posted on 05/18/2020 6:25:57 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: ducttape45
SSD as a main drive and a (bootable) hard drive for daily backups and you have the best of both worlds.
A separate USB backup drive and offsite backup (if you trust those things) can't hurt.

The big trick is to maintain good backup habits or a computer crash is when you discover you have been slacking off lately. (Speaking from experience.)

26 posted on 05/18/2020 6:26:37 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
I spent many years with two 10 thousand rpm hard drives in raid O for the operating system. That was fast. Since converting to SSD drives - one for the operating system and maintenance apps and another for documents and misc programs - I find the SSD drives equally as fast.

Over the years I have found it best to keep the operating system on a different drive from most documents and programs... or at least partition the drive and separate them that way.

Oh, and a portable backup drive for all things that you really need to save. All of it will crash or die eventually.

27 posted on 05/18/2020 6:28:07 PM PDT by Lagmeister
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To: ducttape45

It depends. Low grade SSDs do not last as long as HDs or high grade SSDs. They can be crap. High grade SSDs are about four times as expensive as low grade SSDs. I like a good quality SSD for the OS and everything else to a hybrid drive or standard HD. Boot time is excellent. Backup is entire disk imagine so it is easy to restore (been through it, use an 8GB backup drive.)

Not sure how you’d configure the laptops but this has worked great for me. Just be aware of the difference in grade of SSD if you go that route.


28 posted on 05/18/2020 6:30:03 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ducttape45

Boot up speed and access speed during operation - both of these are striking improvements. Then there is the weight factor - SSD machines are lighter.

As for the lifespan, many other things can and will break or wear out earlier.


29 posted on 05/18/2020 6:31:34 PM PDT by jimfree (My19 y/o granddaughter continues to have more quality exec experience than an 8 year Obama.)
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To: ducttape45

You want Samsung SSDs and no others. Samsung SSDs have the longest life. Choose their higher end series and they last even longer.


30 posted on 05/18/2020 6:31:54 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ducttape45

SSD, it’s the only way to be sure, I have had too many HD’s crash in the past.

Hard Disc drives are mechanical devices with moving parts, bearing and a motor and any of these can and will fail. The most life I have gotten is around three years.

The Solid State drives are basically the same as the main memory in your computer and I have had these going on 6 years with no problems.

Samsung SSD’s are the best IMO while the Western Digital SSD
is made by SanDisk and are a little less in cost but also good.


31 posted on 05/18/2020 6:39:45 PM PDT by Colo9250
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To: ducttape45

I have 6 portable and external hard drives ranging from 250 GB to 8 tb, all SSD’s. Not one of them failed. The ones that failed within 5 years were in the laptops. The earliest one I have which works I bought in 2006 Maxtor, and damn thing still works. But it sure is heavy plus needs lots of wires to power and connect.


32 posted on 05/18/2020 6:42:05 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberal employees at every election since 2008 because I enjoy seeing them cry)
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To: ducttape45
  Cost Speed Durability Highest capacity Energy efficiency
HDD Cheaper Slower Less durable 10TB Use more energy
SSD More expensive Faster More durable 4TB Use less energy

33 posted on 05/18/2020 6:43:46 PM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: ducttape45

I was in IT support for 20 years - I vote the SSD route. Not prone to head crashes, easier to recover data if the OS corrupts, and quicker to reimage. Unless you’re trying to run multiple resource-intensive apps all at once and/or need huge gobs of storage, an SSD drive will fit the bill.


34 posted on 05/18/2020 6:43:48 PM PDT by Viking2002 (Why should I walk into the great unknown, when I can sit here, and throw my bones?)
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To: ducttape45

My MacBook Pro 2012 became a brand-new computer when I replaced its HD with an SSD. Saved me from buying a new machine.


35 posted on 05/18/2020 6:44:30 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: ducttape45

so it depends on your corp replacement cycle. if your looking at a 2-5yr life, go for SSD. under no circumstances should you consider mechanical platter based hard drives. As your IT infrastructure is replaced in the 12-24 month cycle, newer architectures will be coming on line that blur the line between storage space and ram. (its the biggest performance bottle neck) You already see it in phones and tablets. So if you need to keep legacy systems going, go SSD. otherwise replace the entire system.


36 posted on 05/18/2020 6:48:10 PM PDT by waynesa98 (.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; bitt; ransomnote; generally; Liz; bagster; All

I wonder if Paul Combretta has been able to weigh in on the thread?

Paul knows a thing or two about hard drives.


37 posted on 05/18/2020 6:55:03 PM PDT by ptsal (Vote R.E.D. >>>Remove Every Democrat ***)
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To: ducttape45
Either go SSD and do most long term data storage elsewhere (a separate infernal HDD drive, network drive, or cloud drive, or go with a hybrid drive.

Hybrid drives come in two forms: ones with a large cache memory built in (kinda old school) or ones with both SSD and HDD built into one device. The device figures out when to move stuff to HDD based on how long it’s been since you last needed that information.

And don’t worry about rpm if you go with HDD or hybrid. Go with transfer rate. Just like it’s possible for a car to have low acceleration and top speed even if the engine can have a high rpm, a HDD drive’s transfer rate is not completely linked to it’s rpm.

38 posted on 05/18/2020 6:58:57 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: ducttape45
I thought I saw somewhere that they have a limited predetermined life span.

In a laptop, this is a no-brainer, SSD all the way. The pre-determined life span of an SSD is quite long with regular usage. Unless you are reWRITING the entire hard drive every day (e.g. you were using the SSD in the laptop to use full backups of large files that change 100% every day), the lifespan is considerably greater than a regular hard drive, which has its own MTBF (Mean Time Between Failures). Most regular users perform 90% READS, not WRITES, on their large storage media. In a worst case scenario, the SSD might degrade slightly in performance, but will still run rings around a mechanical hard drive.

If the laptop ever leaves the desk and actually gets moved around (travel, moved between work and home, etc.) that is one more reason to go SSD, as a hard drive is more likely to suffer damage in transit because of the moving parts.

The only other time to consider a mechanical hard drive is if you have huge storage requirements (e.g. 2TB or greater). That is not the case for mainstream laptop users.
39 posted on 05/18/2020 7:04:46 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: ctdonath2

“SSDs do have a finite lifespan, but it’s much longer than you need“

For an average user, true. For a developer or analyst who process big files, not sure. Keep in mind many companies don’t even have desktops for devs or users.

I will say, that the flash drives I’ve seen fail, fail completely and unrecoverably with zero warning.


40 posted on 05/18/2020 7:07:36 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie (When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.)
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